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Old 03-26-2017, 11:28 AM   #21
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I do like the werner automatic levelers, and the type with the round pad feet, each style has its pluses and minuses.

A few companies that I've worked for have used the Werner Ever-Level ladders. At first I teased my boss for them having an actual bubble level on the bottom rung, but these ladders have some good qualities to them. Don't need a bubble level to tell you when an extension ladder is plumb...but oh well.

They have regular ladder feet on them. There are some cons like having to manually adjust the height but with experience it becomes easy. Watching new guys try to adjust them is comical and sad how hard they make it look.
The legs can be raised to make the ladder 6" or 10" taller or shorter to go over a window for example, which the automatic levelers won't do. Easy to match ladder heights this way for planks also as an example (instead of up or down a whole rung height).

They don't quite fit on every stair system but I have my solution for that.
You get used to visually checking that the pins are in before ascending, and checking others' ladder sets. Not unusual for me to check ladder sets anyways..

Second edit, I went to the web site to find these pics, and the ladders are much cheaper in town. They are not too much more than the standard Werners.
I am familiar with the Werner Ever-Level/Equalizer type. I had a 24' that I bought out of Lowes that came equipped with the Equalizer levelers. At the time I just never really took to them as I had the round levelers on another 24 and some square pads of similar type levelers on another 24.
I ended up selling that ladder to a guy I know because I just didn't like the leveler system that much and truthfully I got that 24 for a certain job and didn't really have the need for a 3rd 24 after that job.

Maybe I was spoiled with using my foot to make all my adjustments, or maybe bending over to pull the pin and adjust was just to challenging for me lol. Either way I just never really took to that type.

Also another thing is I replaced certain ladders I deemed to be either under classed, or simply in need of replacement with Werner black tip 300lb type 1A aluminum ladders.
The Equalizer comes in stock at the store on the 24 in 225lb type II and 250lb type 1. They say they can be equipped on other type ladders at the factory as well, but I can only imagine the wait time as ordering a 16', 20', and 24' aluminum type 1A has had a 30 day arrival time.

On a side note everything on the Werner site is quite a bit higher than other vendor sites and local stores. I had a shoe break off of a Werner aluminum 1A 6' step and so I looked into ordering new shoes for it. They wanted $40 shipped and I could find the whole ladder for $85ish. So 1/2 the cost of the ladder for 4 shoes seemed unpractical.
I ended up opting to just replace with a type 1A fiberglass and added a paint try to it. That is the only fiberglass ladder I own and while it is heavier it is really solid and has been so far a great ladder to use.
But if anyone has Werner part # 21-27 sitting around at a fair price hit me up

Bottom line is you are correct that each type of leveler has its own pros and cons and that users needs and preferences will vary.
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Pretty cool setups. The most complicated we get is using the pivot ladder setup, digging dirt out, and using wood as platforms/shims.

We actually try to avoid utilizing ladders as much as possible, they tend to slow things down. Some work, obviously you can't get away from, but when possible..minimize.

Doing some searching for ladder platforms and different setups, I came across this video. Guy is a trip, at first I thought he was just messing around, but it seems that he actually is deaf.

Off topic, I apologize, but I've never seen a deaf painter before, not sure if it's a good idea or bad one. lol
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I use the Werner Everlevels. The 250lb ones.

I go a buck fifty-five and my brother about the same. We're not carting around any 200lb fiberglass jobs. I got rid of all 40' ladders a few years ago, but was forced to buy a 32' last summer for one gable in a back yard. I wouldn't mind to be rid of that, as well.

Lift, lift, lift. If you can't afford to pay someone to paint something so far up, you oughtn't have built it so high in the first place.

The Pivit tool is the best money you can spend. You could of course make your own, but it's a pretty well thought out tool. I have some clean ones for interior stairs and some dirty ones for outside.
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I use the Werner Everlevels. The 250lb ones.

I go a buck fifty-five and my brother about the same. We're not carting around any 200lb fiberglass jobs. I got rid of all 40' ladders a few years ago, but was forced to buy a 32' last summer for one gable in a back yard. I wouldn't mind to be rid of that, as well.

Lift, lift, lift. If you can't afford to pay someone to paint something so far up, you oughtn't have built it so high in the first place.

The Pivit tool is the best money you can spend. You could of course make your own, but it's a pretty well thought out tool. I have some clean ones for interior stairs and some dirty ones for outside.
Mine are much better for interior than the pivot. The whole leveler rests on the upper step instead of those little lips on the pivots. And they all nest together to save space....
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http://www.ladderlevelersllc.com

Drive a couple concrete stakes through the last rung if ya need to. My concern is that if you don't know what to do, your safety on a ladder at higher lengths is questionable. Do some home work, watch some videos, buy (or make 1) a pot hook, use a rung to hold your brush (stuff it in the end--many weenie roller frames fit there too) and plan your strategy. This is a good site to start on but if you're worried about your gear or your footing you're distracted, and that can get very dangerous very quickly. Good luck.

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