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I found this "College Prep" practice quiz on the countertop of my customer's house. Thought I would share it.

This certainly isn't the question I would be contemplating if my ladder were falling.
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I'd have to imagine that by the time the base of that 16' ladder is 10' away from the house moving at 6'/sec., there's really not much to think about if you're on the ladder.

It's all pretty much over with except for doing a math quiz while recovering.

I will admit I used to love figuring out stuff like this when I was younger. Wouldn't the top of the ladder be moving downwards at the same rate as the base was moving laterally? It's been a long time.

Or would we have to apply the Pythagorean theory in this situation and ratio them out?

edit: They called it a "16 feet ladder"? Which college is this from?
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If I'm the one on the ladder, the answer is "too damn fast".


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I found this "College Prep" practice quiz on the countertop of my customer's house. Thought I would share it.

This certainly isn't the question I would be contemplating if my ladder were falling.
I'd throw that college prep test away!! The context and spelling errors spell "fail"....just sayin.
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I'd throw that college prep test away!! The context and spelling errors spell "fail"....just sayin.
"slid away", nice catch. Didn't see that earlier.

"Yer not goin' to college son. Yer gettin' a job like me and yer brothers" Dad tried saying that to me 30 years ago. Spent 4 years in university on my own dime and yet here I am. Either way, Dad was prouder to see me becoming a painter.
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I'd throw that college prep test away!! The context and spelling errors spell "fail"....just sayin.
Yeah, I pointed that out to my emoloyee. We got a good laugh.
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Had a 40er slide sideways on me. I was on third rung from top. I just remembered time slowing down. All solid 12"-36" rip rap below me, steep bank. I took my time eyeballing a landing spot. Jumped off about halfway. Landed on one foot on the flattest rock I could find. Went down in a heap, cuttin pot still in my hand. Didn't spill a drop. Ladder snapped in two when it hit. Didn't even hesitate went to truck and grabbed another ladder and headed right back up. It wasn't till I got back up to the top that the adrenaline kicked in. Had the shakes so bad for a couple minutes that my help was wondering if I was having a seizure.

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Had a 40er slide sideways on me. I was on third rung from top. I just remembered time slowing down. All solid 12"-36" rip rap below me, steep bank. I took my time eyeballing a landing spot. Jumped off about halfway. Landed on one foot on the flattest rock I could find. Went down in a heap, cuttin pot still in my hand. Didn't spill a drop. Ladder snapped in two when it hit. Didn't even hesitate went to truck and grabbed another ladder and headed right back up. It wasn't till I got back up to the top that the adrenaline kicked in. Had the shakes so bad for a couple minutes that my help was wondering if I was having a seizure.

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I'm sure you were calculating the rate of slide as this was happening, right? Especially since time slowed down.
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I had an incident probably 15-20 years ago...it didn't even become an incident, but I think about it often. I was working for a cash-on-friday painter who was popular for being cheap for landlords.

We put a 40' in the truck bed and I went up...I think for about $9 an hour.

There is no excuse for putting anyone in those sorts of situations. I was a willing participant, but I would never do that to anyone. I cast blame at myself for being stupid. There should never be a life and death situation involved in painting slumlord apartments, or anything for that matter.

Live and learn, I guess. I would never put an employee into that scenario, because I was there, at my own choosing. One of my buddies, in an unrelated incident, damn near slid off a 3-story slate roof. The paint is still on the slate to mark the occasion. We were all young and dumb.
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I found this "College Prep" practice quiz on the countertop of my customer's house. Thought I would share it.

This certainly isn't the question I would be contemplating if my ladder were falling.
Did anyone else try to figure out the answer? 4.8 feet a second is the answer..
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Thanks dave....I was getting more curious but hadn't yet mustered enough curiosity to give it a go..
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[QUOTE=ParamountPaint;1358465]I had an incident probably 15-20 years ago...it didn't even become an incident, but I think about it often. I was working for a cash-on-friday painter who was popular for being cheap for landlords.

We put a 40' in the truck bed and I went up...I think for about $9 an hour.

There is no excuse for putting anyone in those sorts of situations. I was a willing participant, but I would never do that to anyone. I cast blame at myself for being stupid. There should never be a life and death situation involved in painting slumlord apartments, or anything for that matter.

Live and learn, I guess. I would never put an employee into that scenario, because I was there, at my own choosing. One of my buddies, in an unrelated incident, damn near slid off a 3-story slate roof. The paint is still on the slate to mark the occasion. We were all young and dumb.[/QUOTE]


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Did anyone else try to figure out the answer? 4.8 feet a second is the answer..
I didn't. But I believe you.
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Thanks dave....I was getting more curious but hadn't yet mustered enough curiosity to give it a go..
Ok, I have to confess. I'm really not that smart. I asked my son if he knew the answer. He told me the answer..
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That's why you're a business owner, Dave! Lol...it's all about effective delegation....
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I had an incident probably 15-20 years ago...it didn't even become an incident, but I think about it often. I was working for a cash-on-friday painter who was popular for being cheap for landlords.

We put a 40' in the truck bed and I went up...I think for about $9 an hour.

There is no excuse for putting anyone in those sorts of situations. I was a willing participant, but I would never do that to anyone. I cast blame at myself for being stupid. There should never be a life and death situation involved in painting slumlord apartments, or anything for that matter.

Live and learn, I guess. I would never put an employee into that scenario, because I was there, at my own choosing. One of my buddies, in an unrelated incident, damn near slid off a 3-story slate roof. The paint is still on the slate to mark the occasion. We were all young and dumb.[/QUOTE]


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