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Old 01-25-2013, 06:47 AM   #1
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The gas company's meters were miss labeled and they mistakenly shut off my gas/heat. I came back from vacation to a surprise as we have roughly 90 full and partial cans of stock. This includes stain, paint, poly, mud, glade ect. Ect..
The gas company already sent an adjuster over and we provided pricing. They then asked for receipts and I said "no problem" I will bill you for the time it takes to gather them all up, it will probably take me two full days at $45 per hour. I also brought up the disposal of the product.
What a headache, I'm just glad the sprinkler system didn't freeze and burst.



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Old 01-25-2013, 06:50 AM   #2
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That stinks. Sorry to see all that paint wasted.

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I lost my heat yesterday but only I froze, sorry about your paint that stinks, this is one reason I do not keep any paint around during the winter.
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The biggest headache is the paint I did not show is all my condo paint. We perform maintenance painting and repaints on approximate 8 complexes with multiple colors and it was so easy to just grab and go when work was needed. I am suppose to hear from today regarding the claim today

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The middle shelf of gallons looks like stuff I'd keep, the rest of all those tinted colors and tinted quarts should of been left with the homeowner. Looks like you'll be disposing of it sooner or later anyway. My dad would keep everything. Just the way he was raised. When he died I had a major clean up of bs. Stuff 30yrs old.lmao. I guess he looked at a gal like it was liquid $. Me being a chip off the old block have a small pile in my basement accumalating. I find that finding a place to use it is near impossible if it is not white. It hazmat. I try to leave it with the customer for touch up if it's not something I use daily.
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Are you kidding? This is a great scenario. He gets full replacement cost for a bunch of leftover junked paint. It wasn't waiting for a job or anything, like new product. It was bought, paid for, and used, and paid for again.

I know it sucks, but its getting covered. You know what happens when I get a pallet of frozen paint delivered? Nothing.... I send it back and it gets replaced. What about my loss? What about the product I didn't have for customers because it was frozen and being reshipped? Nada...just a "too bad for you".

They're covering your loss...that really isn't a loss in my eyes, so be happy.
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That's a bunch of junk paint and your just trying to get over on the gas company. And your gunna charge them to look up receipts also. Your what's wrong with this country. Everyone's trying to stick it in someone else and trying to make a free buck. You should be ashamed to do what you are doin......jmo
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If he uses this stuff day in and day out who would be happy that the GAS co shut of the wrong gas meter, I would do the same this is not his fault at all it is all on the gas co. I bet if it was you you would be trying to atleast get the paint replaced, as for charging to look up the estimates if he can get paid for that by all means go for it, he has to look up receipts meaning he is loosing time from a paying job. When I lost my heat yesterday I keep my sprayers in the basement and I would have gone after my landlord for replacement if any thing happened to them over $3,000 in sprayers I would loose it.
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If he uses this stuff day in and day out who would be happy that the GAS co shut of the wrong gas meter, I would do the same this is not his fault at all it is all on the gas co. I bet if it was you you would be trying to atleast get the paint replaced, as for charging to look up the estimates if he can get paid for that by all means go for it, he has to look up receipts meaning he is loosing time from a paying job. When I lost my heat yesterday I keep my sprayers in the basement and I would have gone after my landlord for replacement if any thing happened to them over $3,000 in sprayers I would loose it.
If that's the case, go and repurchase every item exactly that's damaged and hand over the receipt.

Don't just stick your hand out for a check.
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If he uses this stuff day in and day out who would be happy that the GAS co shut of the wrong gas meter, I would do the same this is not his fault at all it is all on the gas co. I bet if it was you you would be trying to atleast get the paint replaced, as for charging to look up the estimates if he can get paid for that by all means go for it, he has to look up receipts meaning he is loosing time from a paying job. When I lost my heat yesterday I keep my sprayers in the basement and I would have gone after my landlord for replacement if any thing happened to them over $3,000 in sprayers I would loose it.
Wow I guess your another one. I'm not sure how long you have been painting but when paint freezes on me I just thaw it out shake it and use it, never had a problem. It don't happen often but I have done it a few times. As far as sprayers mine freeze all the time, I let thaw and they keep on goin. And no I wouldn't try to rip off the gas company if this happened to me
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If that's the case, go and repurchase every item exactly that's damaged and hand over the receipt.

Don't just stick your hand out for a check.
That won't happen, it's easier to just to ripoff the gass company for another $800
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NC no matter how he does it it takes time from paying jobs to get that all taken care of, I do not know if he has a crew or is a 1 man show, if he is a small outfit that takes time away the job he is on and puts him behind. it costs in the long run no matter how this is looked at. Plus the gas co could dispute some of the bill he hands them and they may settle on a fair price.

wills I have been painting for over 18yrs. I paid well over 2 grand for 1 sprayer and sorry frozen water in an aluminum housing is not good I will not even consider taking a chance on it freezing. And no I am not another one of those sue happy people, plus I do not keep any left over paint except flat white which is a gallon or 2 and keep those at my brothers in his basement. Again the gas co dropped the ball.
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Usually paint once frozen never returns to liquid, espcially if frozen solid. Thick cottage cheese is the result sometimes. Other times a solid block of latex.
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As far as sprayers mine freeze all the time, I let thaw and they keep on goin.
You must have a HD chepo sprayer other wise if you spent real money on one you would never let it freeze.
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NC no matter how he does it it takes time from paying jobs to get that all taken care of, I do not know if he has a crew or is a 1 man show, if he is a small outfit that takes time away the job he is on and puts him behind. it costs in the long run no matter how this is looked at. Plus the gas co could dispute some of the bill he hands them and they may settle on a fair price.

wills I have been painting for over 18yrs. I paid well over 2 grand for 1 sprayer and sorry frozen water in an aluminum housing is not good I will not even consider taking a chance on it freezing. And no I am not another one of those sue happy people, plus I do not keep any left over paint except flat white which is a gallon or 2 and keep those at my brothers in his basement. Again the gas co dropped the ball.
They did drop the ball your right, but I think he should try to use the paint and not just go book another vacation on the gas co. dime. That's all I'm sayin
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With the temps we have had this week I bet those cans were frozen solid, it is no good now.
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If you were around recently fresh coat, you would member that Ramsden just cleaned out his shop of excess paint and this is the stuff he uses. We do condo work as well and have thousands of $$$ in paint on our shelves that is important to keep.

Very few frozen pairs are good to use again if they froze solid.
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If you were around recently fresh coat, you would member that Ramsden just cleaned out his shop of excess paint and this is the stuff he uses. We do condo work as well and have thousands of $$$ in paint on our shelves that is important to keep.

Very few frozen pairs are good to use again if they froze solid.
I see a bunch of left over junk that we all have. We all bring back those partially full cans from jobs and tell ourselves that we will use them one day but it never happens. As far as the condo paint he has I didn't see a pic of that, I hope he took lids off and took pics of the paint frozen solid cause if not he may not get a dime
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If you were around recently fresh coat, you would member that Ramsden just cleaned out his shop of excess paint and this is the stuff he uses. We do condo work as well and have thousands of $$$ in paint on our shelves that is important to keep.

Very few frozen pairs are good to use again if they froze solid.
Here is a gal I just found in the van. I will thaw it an use it
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wills I am glad that's not being used on my job site or in my house.

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