PatsPainting

Yep, something I'm finding out the more I read here at PT.

Pat

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VanDamme

This is a deck job I do every few years. I originally sprayed it with Cabots solid acrylic stain 5 or 6 years ago. 2 years ago I rolled another coat on the horizontal surfaces. Just doing the horizontals again this time, and thought the Cabots was wearing faster than I thought it should. This time around I'm using Sikkens Rubbol solid acrylic.



BUT! The cool thing is I used a 5'er and a grid today! I feel so professional Haha!



No if I can just stop myself from wearing my homemade cutoffs and my "Metallica Rocks" shirt I'd really look professional!

bikerboy

Then you'd look "too expensive" and scare away the price shoppers!

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I was just trying to make a point that if you use a tray, you have to clean out buckets too. I know to each their own and I respect that.

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johnpaint

They should make liners for buckets to.

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I don't know what you tray users are painting. For the most part, I don't need to switch colors through out a day. Once were in a color, we're usually in that color all day. If we do need to switch colors we just grab another clean empty 5er or deuce. I have stacks of both in my shop. So I never run out.

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Last Craftsman

This is a good example of how different people's projects affect an answer to what is the best srategy.

If you are doing repaints in old homes with several different colors, and multiple stages going on with different amounts of prep in different colored areas etc, it winds up being advantageous to have multiple colors going at once.

Like Wolfgang said, sometimes having several brushes in different colors at the SAME time.

If you get done painting a coat of one color, and you are waiting for that color to dry, and you want to paint a second or even 3rd color, what do you do?

You could leave the liner, the roller, and the brush IN THE color instead of cleaning all of that out, then later that day, come back when you want to put a second coat on and instantly be painting without any having to have cleaned all that stuff out and setting it up again.

And often it happens that certain areas of the house using the same color will be getting painted at different times, that happens for a multitude of reasons.

So a roller and tray liner stay IN THE PAINT until the job is done.

3 colors? 3 rollers, 3 tray liners.

But whenever I have been doing new construction or large remodels it has always been more like what you are referring to. Either one color for massive amounts of wall space, and you are in the same color for days on end.

Or maybe a couple colors spread out ver the job. But still always in new construction and large building remodels there is always less juggling of stages of prep and paint, and the space is wide open and you can do things more sequentially.

When working in an occupied residence, with lots of colors it often doesn't work out that you get to just have the entire space to yourself to sequence the most effective way for the paintjob, but often you are sequencing around things that the customer needs. Often you are finishing some spaces so that the customer can then move from one part of the house to the finished part, then you can work on the space they were in before.

Trays and tray liners work good when you don't want to be cleaning equipment a whole bunch of unecessary times. Why spend time cleaning something when you don't have to?

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Last Craftsman

Not me, I almost never clean buckets.

I pour straight from the 5 or gallon into the tray.

Done.

There is no bucket cleaning in that equation.

I don't even clean my cut buckets. I peel them.

No cleaning. Except brushes. Cleaning is the enemy. Well one of them.

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VanDamme

They do.

johnpaint

Thats cool never seen them, do you have to order them?
Are they hard ones or like a garbage bag?

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VanDamme

Have no idea, never used them.

A buddy of mine who works for a different painting co. uses them and used them on a job he helped me on for a couple of days.

Last Craftsman

They are hard ones. And they cost $3.50. Almost as much as a 5 if you were to actually buy one that has never had paint in it.

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I would never buy one, just as I would never buy a empty 5 or a tray.

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Last Craftsman

I would never buy a liner for a 5 either. Or a 5, seeing as how they come free when you buy 5 gallons of paint.



That was my point.

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johnpaint

Like I have to go to the dump today and drop off many empty ones filling up my garage.

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johnpaint

If I lived in Calif desert maybe we could build some kind of structure with them to save energy or something.

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CApainter

I think the tray has some advantages. No grid needed, better access for longer extension poles, even application of paint load on roller, etc.

However, I don't see how a painter can transport that tray around a job site as quickly as a five. I noticed this yesterday as I was rolling out some walls. I happened to have the five just outside the runner, on concrete. All I had to do was kick the five as I was moving along. I 'll do this if I'm on a slick surface. There's no way I could do that with a tray without spilling paint every where.

Also, when I dunk that roller in the five, I have plenty of paint to cover large areas at a time.

Bucket painters may not have the finesse of you tray guys, but I think our method has you beat on speed.

Do you guys use trays on exteriors too?

johnpaint

I think what you use is really what kind of painting you started doing when you first learned to paint, most apt / new const started with a bucket so they feel more cozy with that way. I feel buckets are too clumsey for most of my accent walls repaint, and I never dunk my roller all the way in the paint. I don't like paint on the ends of the roller at all.

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CApainter

I think I'll pick up one of those deep dish trays and see if I become a convert.

johnpaint

You know I could ride to work in a ford pinto , I would still get there, so it really little matters as long as the job is good when your done. Just use what you like, but those little ho trays are way out forsure.

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