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Old 01-14-2011, 05:35 PM   #1
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Did you guys noticed an increase of $14 dollars on the Zinsser BIN primer per gallon,I remembered getting a gallon around mid december for $25 BTW 123 is still same price
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lol hack, that pic was taken at home depot wasn't it.

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yes sir I always get Zinsser primers at homedepot paintstores don't carry'em around here.
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but yeah, i noticed a jump in price here too. Its going for around $30 US. $30 used to be worth $60 around 10 years ago. I forget how much I paid for bin 10 years ago. Oh well. Time to buy some more gold.
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Did you guys noticed an increase of $14 dollars on the Zinsser BIN primer per gallon,I remembered getting a gallon around mid december for $25 BTW 123 is still same price
and the cans look dented to boot.

WOW, William Zinsser & Company was a gem of a company for 138 years of family ownership. Selling out to RPM in the late 80's was the first step on the downward slide.

RIP, Zinsser
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Did they go south? I didnt notice. Lots of excellent new products out right now. I still think Zinsser is the one company I use many different product from that never lets me down. Zinsser has always been the one that "works". Have you seen how they updated the TDS? That is one company with attention to detail in every way possible. I see nothing but constant improvements and innovations coming from Zinsser more than anyone else. They just seem to pump out outstanding product one after the next.

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BIN2
BONDZ
SmartPrime
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Nobody around here sales those primers JP, Wednesday I contacted Zinsser regarding Smartprime they don't know who carries that one in my area. I know Zinsser primers are good, so far I only use 5 available here.

123 Bull Eye
Coverstain
PrimeCoat 2
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Bin, KoverStain and 123 are the only products by them that I use. Late 80s, prolly early 90s I used to use a lot of oil base Shields. It went through a reformulation and had some problems with it. Had a paper job fail after only a few days, as nothing would stick to it!

Rep came out and all he would say is "Sorry"..........
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For some reason me and 123 and spraying it out side don't get along It Croatians for all of the band wagon for me. Bin is my go to product in general though.
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BIN is an Interior product, design to only spot prime on exterior
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Bin, KoverStain and 123 are the only products by them that I use. Late 80s, prolly early 90s I used to use a lot of oil base Shields. It went through a reformulation and had some problems with it. Had a paper job fail after only a few days, as nothing would stick to it!

Rep came out and all he would say is "Sorry"..........
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Shieldz has caused great controversy in the wallcovering fraternity about its suitability. I used oil base circa 1990 on one job because I was stuck without a prep and the local S-W carried Shieldz. It was still holding strong ten years later. I used latex Universal circa 2001. It failed. Rep said I shoulda used two coats. I will never use any Shieldz again. Others use both Shieldz White and Universal with never a problem.

As Zinsser goes through different management organizations, their customer support appears to become more and more distant. When first bought by multi-national conglomerate RPM in the late 80's, they appeared to have a large amount of autonomy, but still no family ownership. Last year when RPM restructured their holdings and Zinsser became a subsidiary of Rustoleum, I noticed a further ..... shall I say .... callousness toward customer support.

I will always contend that Zinsser was at its best when it concentrated on what William Zinsser (the first) knew best, shellac.
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Haven't used oil based Shields since my "incident", and only have used water based Shields a handfull of times when I was in a pinch and couldn't get anything else. Burn me once......
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Not that I'm trying to bad mouth them, if they happen to be fine sponsors of this site
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I would recommend using Guardz instead of Shieldz.
Guardz is a fantastic, water based sealer that really works.
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Yep...earlier this winter, dealers got a letter from Rust-oleum/Zinsser that Shellac-based products were going WAY up in cost.
The Lac-bug resin harvest has been moderately off for a few years now, and that they were finally forced into a major price increase.

So...on Jan.1, we had to raise prices....ugghh.

Our main primer lines? C2 and Zinsser!
We're an independent...NOT a big-box!

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Yep...earlier this winter, dealers got a letter from Rust-oleum/Zinsser that Shellac-based products were going WAY up in cost.
The Lac-bug resin harvest has been moderately off for a few years now, and that they were finally forced into a major price increase.

So...on Jan.1, we had to raise prices....ugghh.

Our main primer lines? C2 and Zinsser!
We're an independent...NOT a big-box!

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Ya know what I love about about supply induced price increases?

When supply becomes more plentiful, the prices don't go down.

Ahh, the beauty of cornering the market in a free market capitalistic society.

(Yes, the big Z did buy the other two major shellac companies in the US)
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Things to note:

Shellac is made from the lac bug found in asia.

Made from denatured alcohol and shellac flakes.

Lac bug crop was decimated last year. Think of Honey Bees in the U.S.

Low supply of shellac. High Prices.

That is why 1-2-3 is the same price and Shellac prices are being shifted upwards.
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Things to note:

Shellac is made from the lac bug found in asia.

Made from denatured alcohol and shellac flakes.

Lac bug crop was decimated last year. Think of Honey Bees in the U.S.

Low supply of shellac. High Prices.

That is why 1-2-3 is the same price and Shellac prices are being shifted upwards.
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