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Old 02-17-2008, 08:43 PM   #1
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Default After drywalling, primer or texture first?

I am finishing a basement and the drywall is now up. The instructions on the drywall mud container states to apply a primer to the drywall prior to shooting on the texture coat. When they did the upstairs they (another company) applied the texture coat directly to the drywall, then I primered and painted the walls.

Which way is correct?

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Old 02-17-2008, 08:48 PM   #2
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we've covered this in the past

my take on it was to prime first, but most guys don't prime beforehand

not priming first may not be 'correct' as far as paint or drywall manufactures are concerned, but it's the trade standard to just shoot it on bare rock

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The correct way is to primer first, then texture
However, it is often not done that way...probably a good majority of the time
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If the texture coating is using the same material as one of those lightweight all purpose joint compound, I don't think you need to prime it. I never see anybody prime before patch or skim coating dry wall. Texture coat should not be that much different. You can prime it .
But IMO, is just overkill...

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For all the new construction houses I have painted, the GC. always blew texture right over bare sheet rock...I can't remember ever priming before texture.
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Just did a ceiling last week and went on drywall, I don't think i have ever done it the proper way. Although, we prime after texturing.
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The reason for priming new drywall before texturing is because the tape joints and nail spots are more absorbent than the surrounding drywall which results in the texture drying faster in those areas. This causes a noticable difference in the texture between mudded and non-mudded areas that can be seen no matter how many coats of paint you throw at it. That's the reason that manufacturers recommend priming first. That being said, I've NEVER seen anyone prime before texturing other than myself. I always prime before texturing ceilings however I've been kind of lax about priming before texturing walls.
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Some of our builders will have the rockers spray with prep coat before texturing.

Then a quick sanding pass before prime and paint.

As Stacy said, THAT'S how it should be done.
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texturing first, Spray on, Dry then prime. Thats how my boss of 30 years did it.
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Default Prime & Texture...

The "ideal" way, for best paint appearance would be to spray a quick coat of primer; spray the texure; THEN the full-coat primer.

Will this ever realistically be done...RARELY, but it's the ideal.

If I had to pick one stage to prime...DEFINATELY AFTER the texture.

Otherwise, you're just painting over absorbent chalk. This lessens the sheen of the new paint. And, if builders-grade paints are going up, these need all the help they can get!!

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We do a lot of texturing here, after tapers are done we blow a primer and a finishcoat on all the walls. Then we poly off the walls and spray Texture undercoat on the ceilings. Then we texture. Usually use Spantex. It is far from the same material as drywall mud. We then pull our poly which leaves a perfect line from wall to ceiling for our final cutin in by hand.

Texture should never go on bare board. Regardless of it being painted after or not. With texture undercoat as a base there is no need to paint it. Remember once you paint texture it makes it so much harder or impossible to remove if the ceilings ever need to be redone.

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New drywall. Befor texture apply a coat of high solid primer, that will help show you any imperfections that need to be fix befor texture it will also help the texture to adhere , then texture, then apply a coat of sealer (PVA). That will seal the project, then your two top coats of finish paint.

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New drywall. Befor texture apply a coat of high solid primer, that will help show you any imperfections that need to be fix befor texture it will also help the texture to adhere , then texture, then apply a coat of sealer (PVA). That will seal the project, then your two top coats.
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New drywall. Befor texture apply a coat of high solid primer, that will help show you any imperfections that need to be fix befor texture it will also help the texture to adhere , then texture, then apply a coat of sealer (PVA). That will seal the project, then your two top coats of finish paint.
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New drywall. Befor texture apply a coat of high solid primer, that will help show you any imperfections that need to be fix befor texture it will also help the texture to adhere , then texture, then apply a coat of sealer (PVA). That will seal the project, then your two top coats of finish paint.
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Applying texture should hide any imperfection that you would normally miss if you were leaving the walls smooth. I think you doing extra steps thats not needed. I texture, prime, then paint its that simple. Just read the back of the bucket.
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Step 1. Prime drywall (texture adheres to primer much better than bare rock) Step 2. Texture to desired finish. Let dry. Step 3. Re-prime textured finish being very careful not to make too many passes while back-rolling/brushing as it will re-hydrate the mud & start to come off. Let dry. Step 3. Apply 2 topcoats of desired color, pass go & collect your check.
I know its a PITA but good work usually is.

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Step 1. Prime drywall (texture adheres to primer much better than bare rock) Step 2. Texture to desired finish. Let dry. Step 3. Re-prime textured finish being very careful not to make too many passes while back-rolling/brushing as it will re-hydrate the mud & start to come off. Let dry. Step 3. Apply 2 topcoats of desired color, pass go & collect your check.
I know its a PITA but good work usually is.
Can ask you where you get those instruction from. do tapers prime the drywall before they mud, NO, so if most texture have more glue in it than drywall mud why do you need to prime first. You shouldn't have to prime before you texture.
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Can ask you where you get those instruction from. do tapers prime the drywall before they mud, NO, so if most texture have more glue in it than drywall mud why do you need to prime first. You shouldn't have to prime before you texture.
Here we go,,, I know I'll get slamed for this,,, but, I can't hepp myself.

As stated in an earlier post,, drywall mud and drywall paper absorb at a TREMENDOUSLY differant rate. Priming will make your TEXTURE stay even, its NOT about the paint, its ALL about the absorbance rate of the texture.

It boils down to this,,, if you want CONSISTANT texture, you must prime first.

And of course you will need to prime (or paint) again, to seal the texture, so that you don't THEN AGAIN end up with an un-equal absorbance rate
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I like to have the drywall primed before texture. Helps to keep seams from showing.
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I like to have the drywall primed before texture. Helps to keep seams from showing.
Thats correct, see above post to explain why it's so

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