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Old 10-03-2016, 12:27 PM   #61
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Oh dang! My Consumer Reports' "best buy", "highest rated", "extensively tested" Samsung washing machine just self destructed all over my basement! I should go right now and buy some CR top rated extensively tested Behr paint to freshen the mess up a bit huh?
Anything to keep the thread alive, right?
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Anything to keep the thread alive, right?
Just trying to keep the Behr name at the top of the thread list to discourage people from starting another one. Since they can't be moved to the diy thread, this is my attempt to deflect them from the forum. If we can't beat them, isolate them!
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How about this one-" when my CR magazine top rated, best buy, extensively tested washing machine blew up my CR magazine top rated, best buy, extensively tested Behr paint peeled off my walls!".

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I did actually accomplish a long standing challenge to myself this weekend though! I actually found a paint that has more ammonia smell then any Behr product! And oddly enough it says on the can that it is a low voc-low odor product AND it is also sold at Home Depot!
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@PACman What is the function of ammonia in paint? Not a rhetorical question. Just wondering.
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@PACman What is the function of ammonia in paint? Not a rhetorical question. Just wondering.
From what I've been told it is used as a cheap way to keep the paint from mildewing in the can before it is sold. It is also used to replace some of the water soluble solvents that had to be removed to gain voc compliance. Ammonia itself is voc exempt. It can kill humans if enough of it is breathed in, but it doesn't pollute the atmosphere. So some companies load up on it instead of using an antimicrobial additive that costs less then 5 cents a gallon to save money.
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@PACman What is the function of ammonia in paint? Not a rhetorical question. Just wondering.
Its main purpose is for the manufacturer to use less titanium. The lower the amount of titanium, the cheaper it is to manufacture.
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used marquee ex satin enamel. good coverage but set up a little quick, no time for error
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Its main purpose is for the manufacturer to use less titanium. The lower the amount of titanium, the cheaper it is to manufacture.
a ha! I knew they were blowing smoke up my bum! SW always said it was to keep the paint from mildewing in the can, but I have also had people tell me it was used as some sort of wetting agent or some such for the cheaper pigments. But the gist of it is, paints that have a higher then normal ammonia odor are using ammonia to cheapen their product in a way that the normal DIY painter won't be cognizant of.

(cognizant is a big word I just learned!)
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used marquee ex satin enamel. good coverage but set up a little quick, no time for error
That's getting kinda common with the newer high solids paints. I had a heck of a time using Manor hall Timeless exterior a few years ago. As soon as the temps hit 80degs or so the stuff got tacky as hell. A lot of that has to do with some of the acrylic resins being uv cured now.
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I've put test patches of 14 different semi transparent stains on my deck to see which of them would look/work the best on a 10 year old deck. The differences between certain stain brands is quite amazing. The most amazing one of all is of course Behr! When it rains, the Behr S/T waterbased cedar stain turns an amazing shade of milky, fluorescent orange! ( NOT a color that appears in nature I might add! Except possibly on Costa Rican tree frogs!) And when it gets wet, you can scratch it right off with your fingernail. It's the only one out of all of them that does these amazing things! If i was i-phone savvy I would post pictures but I'm not so I can't. But it looked good at first! Until the first time it rained anyway.
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Like Ana and Elsa learned, you gotta "Let it go". That company's products suck and we already know it.
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Like Ana and Elsa learned, you gotta "Let it go". That company's products suck and we already know it.
again, I started this thread to deflect the Behr crap away from the important posts. I have to add stuff to keep it near the top of the thread list.
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again, I started this thread to deflect the Behr crap away from the important posts. I have to add stuff to keep it near the top of the thread list.
I don't remember BEHR ever being a problem in important posts. Is this one of those examples of a solution being created in hopes that a problem would come along? If anything, your bumping of this thread gives free advertisement to BEHR in my opinion. Which doesn't bother me in the least.

I find avoidance is the best practice when trying to ignore something. And vice a versa.
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I don't remember BEHR ever being a problem in important posts. Is this one of those examples of a solution being created in hopes that a problem would come along? If anything, your bumping of this thread gives free advertisement to BEHR in my opinion. Which doesn't bother me in the least.

I find avoidance is the best practice when trying to ignore something. And vice a versa.
maybe you should pay a little more attention.
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maybe you should pay a little more attention.
And then what, my soul will be cleansed from BEHR forever? I think you over rate the big box influence on professionals. I mean, sure, I'll shop there as a matter of convenience when the job I'm doing at home, or at work doesn't require particular specifications. But for the most part, I deal with professional suppliers and vendors.
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And then what, my soul will be cleansed from BEHR forever? I think you over rate the big box influence on professionals. I mean, sure, I'll shop there as a matter of convenience when the job I'm doing at home, or at work doesn't require particular specifications. But for the most part, I deal with professional suppliers and vendors.
You would be surprised how many professional painters buy behr around here. They may not be happy about it, but they do.
And besides there hasn't been a truly relevant or even remotely necessary Behr post on here since at least October of 2014. They all are rehashes of existing threads. Thus, the "big Behr"thread. Plus it makes it easier for people to ignore them, having them all in the same place.
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You would be surprised how many professional painters buy behr around here. They may not be happy about it, but they do.
And besides there hasn't been a truly relevant or even remotely necessary Behr post on here since at least October of 2014. They all are rehashes of existing threads. Thus, the "big Behr"thread. Plus it makes it easier for people to ignore them, having them all in the same place.
When you take into consideration how many painters out there fly by the seat of their pants, while measuring their competency by cut in and rolling techniques, in comparison to Journey level painters with actual measurable qualifications, can you really consider ALL painters professionals?
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When you take into consideration how many painters out there fly by the seat of their pants, while measuring their competency by cut in and rolling techniques, in comparison to Journey level painters with actual measurable qualifications, can you really consider ALL painters professionals?


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