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Old 10-05-2016, 02:01 PM   #1
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Has anybody used this paint? I was looking at the data sheet and it said that you could enhance the hardness by adding 1 quart of Paint Plus from Vermont Natural Coatings to 1 gallon of C2 Cabinet & Trim paint. I've never seen a data page where it listed adding a paint from another company in the data sheet. Has anybody tried this?

I'm considering using this product for an upcoming cabinet project. Its the biggest cabinet job I've done so far.

On my last cabinet job I had issue with bubbles in the wet film right after I sprayed SW Waterborne Alkyd Urethane This happened in two different colors so I'm thinking about switching products.
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I haven't heard of the product before, so just checked out their website. The pda mentions application by brush and roller, but nothing regarding spraying I don' think. Perhaps the product is great, but since you are doing the biggest cabinet job you've done so far, I think that it would be good to stick with a product that you know and trust, and has a proven track record. Or if you have time between now and job commencement, buy a small amount and test its application, adhesion and durability, etc.
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Why would you do this to your self on the biggest cabinet job.
For the past 5 years I use BM Advance on cabinets and Trims never failed me, I do 4 to 5 kitchen and a lot of bathroom vanities and book selfs a month from repainting to a new kitchen. Every time I say I want to try something different and something telling me if it's working why change.
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I am suprised you found a c2 retailer!!! Are tou in Canada by any chance?
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$$$$$. Flush. Don't over think it.

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If it wasn't for the issues I had with SW Water Borne Alkyd Urethane on the last job, I wouldn't consider making a switch.

At this point I'm looking at all the options that are readily available in my area. If I were to make a switch I'd figure out my process with old scrap doors before using it on a clients house.

I'm in Seattle and the same store also sells Pratt & Lambert.


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Look into Ben Moore Cabinet Coat satin or semi gloss but it is only in light colors
If that doesnt do kt for you
PPG breakthrough 250 VoC sating or gloss
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Use a WB lacquer like Valspar. Quick turnaround, and the toughest finish around. They also carry a bullet proof WB varnish.

I love Insl-X Cabinet Coat but Semi-Gloss is not available in Canada. I would never use their satin finish on cabinets. They ran a test market in the US for a year and now carry the semi-gloss everywhere. I spoke to the people at their head office in NJ.

As a side note, Warren Buffet & Berkshire Hathaway is the owner of Benjamin Moore.

If I had 2 weeks to do a cabinet job at a leisure pace, I might consider using Advance. It is a great product. Flipping the doors before it is cured could result in dents or scratches.

Has anyone sprayed the cabinet doors on hangars (using Advance) to do both sides at once? I've been too afraid of that product running to try it myself.

I think Seattle Painter (Shearer Painting) has a video in this forum when they used FPOE (Fine Paints of Europe) on cabinet doors. They used hangars and sprayed both sides at once. I can't remember if they used the oil or the acrylic version. He doesn't pop in here very often any more. I wish I knew what he was using these days on cabinets,.

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Use a WB lacquer like Valspar. Quick turnaround, and the toughest finish around. They also carry a bullet proof WB varnish.

I love Insl-X Cabinet Coat but Semi-Gloss is not available in Canada. I would never use their satin finish on cabinets. They ran a test market in the US for a year and now carry the semi-gloss everywhere. I spoke to the people at their head office in NJ.

As a side note, Warren Buffet & Berkshire Hathaway is the owner of Benjamin Moore.

If I had 2 weeks to do a cabinet job at a leisure pace, I might consider using Advance. It is a great product. Flipping the doors before it is cured could result in dents or scratches.

Has anyone sprayed the cabinet doors on hangars (using Advance) to do both sides at once? I've been too afraid of that product running to try it myself.
Almost all of the cabinets getting painted here are satin finish. Rarely does anyone want semigloss. And according to my Insul-x rep and their 2016 product guide, Cabinet coat only comes in satin, so i really don't think semigloss is available everywhere in the US.
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Almost all of the cabinets getting painted here are satin finish. Rarely does anyone want semigloss. And according to my Insul-x rep and their 2016 product guide, Cabinet coat only comes in satin, so i really don't think semigloss is available everywhere in the US.
Not sure why you are challenging me on this when I just called the head office and got an email regarding the availability of the semi-gloss. Sounds like you are butt hurt because you are clueless about this development. Don't take it personally sport.

Like I said, they ran a test market for a year, and are now offering it to everyone in the US. This is recent news which is why it is not in your 2016 product guide. Have your rep call BM's head office.

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Not sure why you are challenging me on this when I just called the head office and got an email regarding the availability of the semi-gloss. Sounds like you are butt hurt because you are clueless about this development. Don't take it personally sport.

Like I said, they ran a test market for a year, and are now offering it to everyone in the US. This is recent news which is why it is not in your 2016 product guide. Have your rep call BM's head office.
Just called the 800 number. Still can't get it here. Could be still limited due to distribution reasons. And I still wouldn't want any because no one here uses Semigloss for cabinets and I already sell Ultraplate satin. Am I butt hurt? Nope. Don't want or need it either way. But I still can't get it.
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This situation with Cabinet Coat semi reminds me of SW Snap Dry. They tell me it is now available in gallons, but it doesn't exist when I ask for some. Even the rep was in the store telling me the store has it, but when they go "looking" for it, they don't have it (and never have).

I chalk it up to a distribution thing. They will eventually have it. Just don't tell me it's in when it isn't. That's all I ask.
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Golly jeepers fellas! The Benjamin Moore/ Insul-x dealer next town over hasn't heard a thing about it. He's going to see if he can get it. Sounds like some intern jumped the gun a little bit to me.
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Calling the head office of any company to see if a product is actually available is usually not a great idea. It's like talking to a Home depot clerk. They'll say anything to sell you something.
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If I had 2 weeks to do a cabinet job at a leisure pace, I might consider using Advance. It is a great product. Flipping the doors before it is cured could result in dents or scratches.

Has anyone sprayed the cabinet doors on hangars (using Advance) to do both sides at once? I've been too afraid of that product running to try it myself.
I hang my cabinet doors, drawers, etc about 95% of the time. Advance does fine, it doesn't run down door jambs and so it won't on cabinet doors if you don't spray it heavy.

No semi gloss CC at my Ben Moore. I like the satin anyways.
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Almost all of the cabinets getting painted here are satin finish. Rarely does anyone want semigloss. And according to my Insul-x rep and their 2016 product guide, Cabinet coat only comes in satin, so i really don't think semigloss is available everywhere in the US.
SG just came out months ago to all BMs
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If it wasn't for the issues I had with SW Water Borne Alkyd Urethane on the last job, I wouldn't consider making a switch.

At this point I'm looking at all the options that are readily available in my area. If I were to make a switch I'd figure out my process with old scrap doors before using it on a clients house.

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Daly's? Way over priced and you'd likely get a better product that's easier to use and provides a better finish using Benjamin Moore...
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Just called the 800 number. Still can't get it here. Could be still limited due to distribution reasons. And I still wouldn't want any because no one here uses Semigloss for cabinets and I already sell Ultraplate satin. Am I butt hurt? Nope. Don't want or need it either way. But I still can't get it.
After reading here that cabinet coat comes in semigloss I went to the store and asked if they could get it in. He walked to the shelf and grabbed a can of it. Said they've had it for awhile. The whole time I thought it was satin only.
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