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Old 05-02-2010, 12:11 PM   #1
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I've had it with Cabots Stains, I've been using them for 20+ years as a house painter. I stained my deck every 2 years for the past 7 years and now I can't get my color, Valspar bought them out last year or so and now my color is HISTORY.

The old color was Beechwood Grey Solid decking stain and it was like a beigh color. Does anyone here any info on this or maybe a formula to use to get that color again?
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Well things do change sometimes, but Cabot is good stuff.

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It may not be available as a ready mix color but I would be very surprised if your supplier didnt still have the formula and a base to make it in.
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One of the Cabot retailers here custom tints stains. I'm sure you could have it color matched somewhere. Haven't had any failures although Cabot frowns upon doing this. You may have to forgo the products guarantee for the desired color. Have you talked to a rep to see if the color remains under a different name.

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Match it in BM Arborcoat.......problem solved
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Match it in BM Arborcoat.......problem solved
It depends on what he is putting it on. Come on NC - you know BM is still testing this product as we speak. Plus who really wants to apply a clear over the stain?
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So when is Wolvie going to branch out into deck sealers?

I never do solid color decks if I can help it (as in if it is not already on it, I will not do it).

One thing I do not like about Cabot's non-solid deck sealers is that they are semi-solid. They seem to have enough solid content that they give enough of a film that it can peel a little bit.
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It depends on what he is putting it on. Come on NC - you know BM is still testing this product as we speak. Plus who really wants to apply a clear over the stain?
Clear is optional not a requirement Just depends on the look you want. Im trying the Semi-solid on my brother in laws front porch and back deck ( pretty beat up almost needs replacing )
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So when is Wolvie going to branch out into deck sealers?

I never do solid color decks if I can help it (as in if it is not already on it, I will not do it).

One thing I do not like about Cabot's non-solid deck sealers is that they are semi-solid. They seem to have enough solid content that they give enough of a film that it can peel a little bit.
We'll be in it once we buy Sherwin Williams. I don't think that the deal is going to go through until after we close on Wal-Mart though. lol..
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I've had it with Cabots Stains, I've been using them for 20+ years as a house painter. I stained my deck every 2 years for the past 7 years and now I can't get my color, Valspar bought them out last year or so and now my color is HISTORY.

The old color was Beechwood Grey Solid decking stain and it was like a beigh color. Does anyone here any info on this or maybe a formula to use to get that color again?
Thank You if you can help..
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Come on! Cabot stains make the best oil stains in the business, PERIOD!!!! Besides, take it to a good paint store, to somebody who KNOWS how to do a custom eye stain match, like me!!!!! But, I'd strip the deck, and redo it in a semi solid deck stain. It'll just faed instead of craking, and possibly peeling.
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I'd strip the deck, and redo it in a semi solid deck stain. It'll just faed instead of craking, and possibly peeling.
If you spend the time stripping it....use a Semi-Transparent stain, or Transparent.

A Semi-Solid Stain can still flake and peel, its less likely than a solid, but It can still happen. ( again, film forming, just less film )
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If you spend the time stripping it....use a Semi-Transparent stain, or Transparent.

A Semi-Solid Stain can still flake and peel, its less likely than a solid, but It can still happen. ( again, film forming, just less film )
Once again man, if it's over applied, it can peel like every other stain. but it's a one coat product, that will last longer than a semi transparent stain. You only give what the wood can take. Trust me, I have been selling the cabot semi solid decking stain (1400 series) since 1998. Also, it depends on whether the customer wants to see more wood grain or less. It's an issue of cosmetics (transparent) vs longevity (semi-solid).

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Come on! Cabot stains make the best oil stains in the business, PERIOD!!!! Besides, take it to a good paint store, to somebody who KNOWS how to do a custom eye stain match, like me!!!!! But, I'd strip the deck, and redo it in a semi solid deck stain. It'll just faed instead of craking, and possibly peeling.
Up until 2 years ago I would have to agree. Now it's garbage.
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Chris what is your go to stain?
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I like sikkens for my semi transparents.

I've been using superstain lately for solids

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Also SW is good for the price.
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Sikkens SRD, Penofin Red Label and I recently just used BM Alkyd Transparent Stain in Natural on a cedar deck and rail that turned out gorgeous.
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For solids I LOVE Woodscapes and Deckscapes. Nothing else compares.

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