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Old 10-20-2016, 11:03 AM   #1
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I get one small job that the customer wants to change his bedroom color from red to light green. normally, in this situation, i will do one coat of primer with two coat of finish paint. however, i am wondering if i can use Aura as base coat, since it has primer in it, and apply one coat of regal as finish coat. with my BM pricing, the price difference between Aura and Regal equals to one gal of BM primer so that i can save one coat of labor. logically, it makes sense to me but i am not sure if i can do that, thanks
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Just do 2 (or 3 if needed) coats of Aura.
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it will beyond the price set with customer
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I get one small job that the customer wants to change his bedroom color from red to light green. normally, in this situation, i will do one coat of primer with two coat of finish paint. however, i am wondering if i can use Aura as base coat, since it has primer in it, and apply one coat of regal as finish coat. with my BM pricing, the price difference between Aura and Regal equals to one gal of BM primer so that i can save one coat of labor. logically, it makes sense to me but i am not sure if i can do that, thanks
Primers are really only necessary for bare substrates, or troubled surfaces. If the existing coating is acrylic and sound, a couple of coats of Aura should work fine. It would be wise to clean and scuff the surface first.
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I get one small job that the customer wants to change his bedroom color from red to light green. normally, in this situation, i will do one coat of primer with two coat of finish paint. however, i am wondering if i can use Aura as base coat, since it has primer in it, and apply one coat of regal as finish coat. with my BM pricing, the price difference between Aura and Regal equals to one gal of BM primer so that i can save one coat of labor. logically, it makes sense to me but i am not sure if i can do that, thanks
Use a gallon of flat tinted to the finish, then two top coats of whatever you want.

Most flats and eggshells are self priming.

I hear Marquee will cover in one, right @PACman
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i dont think with the size of the room, i can apply two coat with one gal of aura, originally, the price was set with two gal of regal and the color was from red to gray. i have done several times with regal from red to gray without priming after two coat, this is why my price did not cover the priming. however, the customer changes his mind recently to light green. i am not sure if light green can cover the red well. also, light green is hard color to apply as well. this is why i consider to prime it first

also, this is one of the returning customers and he referred me to another 5 customers in the past. i try not to increase my price for this one bedroom job accordingly after the color change

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Use a gallon of flat tinted to the finish, then two top coats of whatever you want.

Most flats and eggshells are self priming.

I hear Marquee will cover in one, right @PACman
ABSOLUTELY! But then again, vegetable oil will "cover" in one coat. As will water.
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eight coats of Emerald, cash that check! (had to change things up a bit.)
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What color is the green is extreme or just like a ligbt jade
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it will beyond the price set with customer
You can most likely do it with 2 coats Aura, which will save the ho the labor cost of putting 3 coats of another paint.
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It's your money buddy, it'll cover in 2 coats with Aura guaranteed... Or they'll give you another gallon. Do if it saves you time, and you make same money... Spend the extra 15-20 $ for a 2nd gallon of Aura and job is done in 2 coats. No brained! 😅
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The customer changed the specs, so you should have changed the price accordingly and explained why. The time you spend getting in and out of two different paints of the SAME color to make up what amounts to less than $10/gal price difference seems extremely inefficient to me.

Two coats of Aura should do well as long as you apply the paint with the proper WFT. Whenever I am worried about hide, I give up my sharp and speedy cutting brush for a Corona Cortez or Wooster Alpha as those brushes tend to apply the paint the most evenly.


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i dont think with the size of the room, i can apply two coat with one gal of aura, originally, the price was set with two gal of regal and the color was from red to gray. i have done several times with regal from red to gray without priming after two coat, this is why my price did not cover the priming. however, the customer changes his mind recently to light green. i am not sure if light green can cover the red well. also, light green is hard color to apply as well. this is why i consider to prime it first

also, this is one of the returning customers and he referred me to another 5 customers in the past. i try not to increase my price for this one bedroom job accordingly after the color change
Specs change, so does the price.
If they removed items from the job would you charge less?
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I have $10 in my pocket that says once they see the pale green they'll want to go back to the original red again!
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Why are you so concerned when it's a returning customer that's given you 5 referrals? If you put 2 coats on and it doesn't cover well I'd tell the homeowner that it needs a 3rd coat and that I won't charge them for it.

They're a good customer. Keep them happy and hope for 5 more referrals.


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it will beyond the price set with customer
The labor you'll save might balance the difference. It doesn't make any sense at all to use 2 different products.
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The labor you'll save might balance the difference. It doesn't make any sense at all to use 2 different products.
Very true. Anyone else ever notice that Aura appears to have a slight sheen difference than anything else in the BM lineup? As in, Aura eggshell, etc. is slightly higher sheen than Regal/Ben? Not a huge difference, but I've always found there to be a slight one. Girls at the paint shop I use have mentioned this as well.
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Very true. Anyone else ever notice that Aura appears to have a slight sheen difference than anything else in the BM lineup? As in, Aura eggshell, etc. is slightly higher sheen than Regal/Ben? Not a huge difference, but I've always found there to be a slight one. Girls at the paint shop I use have mentioned this as well.
That's typical of all manufactures ime...different line, slightly different sheen and perhaps a slightly different color. Because it's a different product!
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Often times you won't need to roll a third. Its the cut that might take a third time around.
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As has been posted; spec change = more work (or more material) = more you need to charge. If they are customers you've worked for before, they should understand and realize you are not trying to pull something on them. Heck, even if they were new customers they should get it.
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