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Old 12-15-2015, 08:28 PM   #1
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I know people who are trying to flip a house and want the cheapest paint available (imho she paid too much for the house in the first place)
Would y'all reccomed a cheap paint to save money or recommend a higher quality paint to save on gallons as opposed to labor? She is buying the paint and is hiring herself a painter who I am assuming has already given her a labor cost
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Buy a mid range product. Paint is cheaper than labor.
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imo typically cheaper materials bring their own issues that can raise the labor time when it comes to application and coverage. It is often better to use familiar products that have been proven to perform for your own system. With that said not all jobs are the the Taj Mahal and sometimes polishing a turd only requires so much shine.

Materials being much cheaper than labor it does not often make sense to deviate to to far out of your comfort zone at risk of adding additional time.
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Could never understand why anyone would want to cheap out on the item that is generally the least expensive part of a paint job, while also being one of the most important in protecting what is likely their single biggest purchase - a house.

Even if it is a flip, at least go with a mid range - as has been suggested.
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I'd never suggest cheap paint, it becomes a headache because it doesn't cover as good, etc. Usually when a client asks for cheapest paint they're comparing Sherwin Williams, Benjamin Moore, Dulux paint prices to Home depot, Lowes, Rona, Wal-Mart prices, and aren't aware of the discount that contractors can get from mid range to high quality paints from the 3 paint store listed.
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How many professional painters do you think buy cheap redwood from Loews to build a deck in their back yard, just to save material costs? I can identify at least one at PT.

Frankly, it is my opinion that you'd have to be applying milk of Magnesia in order for a coating to catastrophically fail given today's resin technologies. It's not the paint that fails, it's the lousy prep, application, and rush to beat the weather conditions that compromise paint films. And you know I'm right...right?

PAC ought to be chiming in right about now. See, I know how to stoke a fire.
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Cheaper paint = more labor hours and more paint. You can get a good mid-grade paint for around $30 per gallon.
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I'd never suggest cheap paint, it becomes a headache because it doesn't cover as good, etc. Usually when a client asks for cheapest paint they're comparing Sherwin Williams, Benjamin Moore, Dulux paint prices to Home depot, Lowes, Rona, Wal-Mart prices, and aren't aware of the discount that contractors can get from mid range to high quality paints from the 3 paint store listed.
True, But how much of that discount gets passed on to the client.

On occasion I have used Kelly Moore Kel-Pro interior paint which is a KM entry level paint. For those flippers that want a clean wall prior to selling the house it covers the wall at the lowest materials cost. I view it as almost a primer for the new buyer!
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Just what I expected
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Anybody have any experience with Porter's Painter's Friend??
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Never met the guy. He's not my friend. :p
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How many professional painters do you think buy cheap redwood from Loews to build a deck in their back yard, just to save material costs? I can identify at least one at PT.

Frankly, it is my opinion that you'd have to be applying milk of Magnesia in order for a coating to catastrophically fail given today's resin technologies. It's not the paint that fails, it's the lousy prep, application, and rush to beat the weather conditions that compromise paint films. And you know I'm right...right?

PAC ought to be chiming in right about now. See, I know how to stoke a fire.
Promar 200. All day long. And when it starts to look like crap and fade in a few years give the new owners my number. (or be sure they have yours!)
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Anybody have any experience with Porter's Painter's Friend??
I sold it for 9 years. About the same as anyone's mid grade contractor line. Covers a little better then PM400 but not quite as well as 200. Won't discolor or scuff up as fast as the Promar lines will though, if that is a concern. Chances are the new owners are going to re-paint anyway after they rub the paint off moving in.
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"There is nothing more expensive then cheap paint"
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Promar 200. All day long. And when it starts to look like crap and fade in a few years give the new owners my number. (or be sure they have yours!)
They must have really hurt you. What happened over there at SW?

It's not your fault....Really, its not your fault.
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They must have really hurt you. What happened over there at SW?

It's not your fault....Really, its not your fault.
I'm glad they're driving customers my way! And if the op is smart he will make sure he is available to do the same! That's all I'm saying here.
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I'm glad they're driving customers my way! And if the op is smart he will make sure he is available to do the same! That's all I'm saying here.
Paco's customers are way down in Atlanta! How in Hagger's home town are they going to shop at your store. And why would he?

You've inspired me to buy another gallon of Promar 200 low VOC.

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It is true, cutting in w cheap does take more time. But what i find, is i work that much harder and the results are the same. The longevity of the paint...i have no idea. I would guess repaints for interiors are about the the same. When doing multiple rooms and there are lesser used rooms, i always mention the options of saving 20dollars a gallon, if they are interested in saving money.
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