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Old 09-14-2015, 10:41 AM   #1
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Never applied it. Repeat customer has a remodel and was wondering about it. Is this stuff finicky ?
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Never applied it. Repeat customer has a remodel and was wondering about it. Is this stuff finicky ?
That's been my experience. We've had the best luck using decorative painting approaches, like ragging on or random brush strokes similar to what's done with color washing.
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I've sprayed it with an airless with pretty good results. Even though the particular metallic I was using said specifically not to spray it airless, or even with a turbine HVLP.

Supposedly the filters in an airless sprayer would filter out some of the metallic particles and make it less shiny. Specs also said turbine air was too warn and would adversely affect drying.

I took the filters out of my handheld airless and sprayed it like that. Looked fine.

If your going to try hand application, I think you have to do something like Gough suggested to get it to look right. Definitely doesn't work like regular paint.
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That's kinda what I thought. Doing this as side work, I don't have the time to experiment or be troubleshooting. Clients are too picky with too much time on their hands the way it is.
I will try to talk them out of it.
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Metallic paint was actually the very first paint I applied on walls when I got out of social work. My buddy (handyman) got a job doing some work in a movie production office. Producer wanted an accent wall done with this silvery stuff.

My buddy handed me the gallon can, told me the price of it and said "get to it." Probably the most expensive paint I've ever used to this day.

I had no idea what I was doing. Can't remember how it turned out. Didn't get called back to fix it though. I seem to remember being terrified.
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She said home depot has a special roller for theirs
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She said home depot has a special roller for theirs
Modern Masters has this roller. It cost about fifty bucks. I have it,it works. It will not be super smooth like a brand new cookie sheet. They also have an extender and if memory serves, you are not supposed to cut in with most metallic paints. Also. it will take more coats than you think and it helps to base coat in a similar color in regular ol' paint.

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9" Metallic Paint Roller (ME652)
This roller is specially designed for the application of the Metallic Paint Collection paints. The Metallic Paint Collection Roller’s unique, high-quality, European fabric and beveled ends work to create a uniform silk-like finish. The glue-free construction allows the Metallic Paint Collection Roller to last up to 10 times longer than conventional rollers, and makes it easy to clean. The standard nine-inch construction fits standard U.S. roller frames.


Alternatively you could use the Fauxlynn tried and true but PaintTalk ridiculed method of squegee application.
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The squegee method ? Care to share the method ?
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The squegee method ? Care to share the method ?

Yeah, I would like to hear it too. I've seen some of the banter about the squeegee method but missed the actual procedure. Care to outline it for us again Lynn?
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This is a three story foyer we did, all with a sponge and a squeegee. Two of us,two days. Three or four layers. It is mostly silver, but there is some random gold blended in, not sure if you can tell that.



Okay, you need metallic paint, possibly extender or faux glaze, a 4" chip brush or roller or sponge and a RED rubber squeegee. I think the ones I use vary from 4-6". Black rubber will leave scuff marks. If you use a sea sponge, wet it and ring it out completely. It should be damp but not dripping.

As with anything faux, doesn't really matter how you get it on the wall, just get a managable amount on the wall, starting at the top. Run the squeegee through what you just applied to stretch it out on the wall. Use a random pattern. Have a rag available to catch slop. I put a rag on my hip OR I might put it in my right hand. Soon you will be good enough to pan it all out with no risk of slop.
I usually have a pan on the ladder, a big sea sponge in my left hand and a squeegee in my right.

I usually start upper left and make an organic pattern up, down, left to right. It dries so quickly, you can repeat areas readily. You will see feint strokes on the first and second layers,but as I said, it could take about three layers to look pretty solid.

I just find the results from this method less 'busy', def no roller marks.

ps- the vertical lines you see on the wall going up the stairs are the shadows of the balustrades.

PSS- to clarify, the rag is for slop coming off the edge of the squeegee. And, you don't put too much pressure on the squeegee. you're not trying to take anything off, just spreading it out.
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This image is from the Powderoom thread. I know it probably seems like way more work than you want to do, but it does turn out nice.


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I sprayed modern masters through a hvlp on an ext. door and entry gate and it turned out great. Modern masters is a high end product so I expected better results than some thing from a big box store. I also did a project with some low end stuff and of course it looked terrible.
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If there's anything I've learned about decorative/faux coatings (there really isn't), it's that they're 4x more finicky than you think they'll be. Saw a glitter glaze job where the HO tried to do it themselves and just slopped it on the wall with a regular roller. Worst roller marks I've ever seen, you could see every stroke.
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I used to sell the Modern Masters line at PPG. They actually had a squeegee in their applicator line at that time. My GF uses them all the time.

ps-she won't touch anything but Modern Masters or on a big job the Ben Moore metallics.

Pss- she's an art school grad so she is far pickier then most of her clients. But she has plenty of work and has been booked solid for the year since the end of march, so there must be something to this metallic/faux finish stuff after all. Even if my store did eat $6000.00 worth of outdated Modern Masters back in '07.
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I've sprayed it with an airless with pretty good results. Even though the particular metallic I was using said specifically not to spray it airless, or even with a turbine HVLP. Supposedly the filters in an airless sprayer would filter out some of the metallic particles and make it less shiny. Specs also said turbine air was too warn and would adversely affect drying. I took the filters out of my handheld airless and sprayed it like that. Looked fine. If your going to try hand application, I think you have to do something like Gough suggested to get it to look right. Definitely doesn't work like regular paint.
If u got, T.J., a hvlp or a conventional set up. That is the way to go.
Sprayed is just so much better. IMO. It wants to be sprayed them metallics.
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I used to sell the Modern Masters line at PPG. They actually had a squeegee in their applicator line at that time. My GF uses them all the time.

ps-she won't touch anything but Modern Masters or on a big job the Ben Moore metallics.

Pss- she's an art school grad so she is far pickier then most of her clients. But she has plenty of work and has been booked solid for the year since the end of march, so there must be something to this metallic/faux finish stuff after all. Even if my store did eat $6000.00 worth of outdated Modern Masters back in '07.
I told her i could order it and she could buy it from me but she didn't like my price. See how women are?
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