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Old 09-03-2015, 05:50 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I've always been able to upsell my homeowners to remove wallpaper and have never had to paint over it, but this time there are zero creases, and the wallpaper is so tight I believe it will look great if painted over. My question is: Do I still need to oil prime before painting or will using a product like regal be sufficient?
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Prime with Gardz.
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use oil primer hands down. tint to finish color if need be.
cover stain works best. If seems lift use a flat razor and patch.
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Gardz, oil prime or Bin. If you go straight to the Regal, I can assure you it won't be so "tight" anymore.
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Hey guys, I've always been able to upsell my homeowners to remove wallpaper and have never had to paint over it, but this time there are zero creases, and the wallpaper is so tight I believe it will look great if painted over. My question is: Do I still need to oil prime before painting or will using a product like regal be sufficient?
you wanna take a bet on that?
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you wanna take a bet on that?
Are you suggesting it will look like wallpaper that's been painted?
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Prime with Gardz.

I've been wondering about this lately. Has anyone tried going over paper with Gardz? We run into a lot of paper hung over raw rock. We usually oil prime and skim in those cases and never had a problem. Would be really nice to use Gardz instead though. This particular job is about the last thing I use oil inside for anymore, would like to cut it out completely.
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is gardz tintable?
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Exactoman, if it is NOT paper hung on raw rock, you do realize that at some time in the future some poor SOB will be faced with stripping it. Paper is NOT permanently adhered to walls and WILL (100% guaranteed) need to be stripped in the future.

The person who strips it will be cursing and hexing you and your great grandkids.

AND the karma you earn will require you to strip at least five painted over wallpapered rooms for every room you DO paint over.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I am bound by full disclosure.
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No...just...no.

Ugh!

Just take it down. You can even bill for it.
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Exactoman, if it is NOT paper hung on raw rock, you do realize that at some time in the future some poor SOB will be faced with stripping it. Paper is NOT permanently adhered to walls and WILL (100% guaranteed) need to be stripped in the future.

The person who strips it will be cursing and hexing you and your great grandkids.

AND the karma you earn will require you to strip at least five painted over wallpapered rooms for every room you DO paint over.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I am bound by full disclosure.
I sure hope age can outrun karma, cuz I've painted a fair amount of wallpaper.
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I sure hope age can outrun karma, cuz I've painted a fair amount of wallpaper.
if not you, then your descendants

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is gardz tintable?
Yes. 2 oz per gallon. It will never be more than opaque/cloudy, but it seals surfaces so well you will be impressed at how the first coat of paint covers.

I've used it over wallpaper (I know, I know) and it has worked like a charm.
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guys I just told you after 10 years of painting this would be my first one ever. this wallpaper has been on the walls for 35 years. it's on there. I rarely do favors, but I know this young couple and it's 1250 more for me to strip it.
I was simply honest with them. I've stripped my share of painted over wallpaper. I know it sux. good thing I don't believe in karma!
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if not you, then your descendants

"the sins of the father . . . . ."
Thankfully, none followed me into this line of work.
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I would def.prime it with oil . If the finish color is light ,you can match it exactly with oil primer .Here is your 2 coats (1oil,1 latex)
SW has a quick dry oil primer .You can paint over it within the hour.
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guys I just told you after 10 years of painting this would be my first one ever. this wallpaper has been on the walls for 35 years. it's on there. I rarely do favors, but I know this young couple and it's 1250 more for me to strip it.
I was simply honest with them. I've stripped my share of painted over wallpaper. I know it sux. good thing I don't believe in karma!
so you think you paid forward ????

but seriously. 1250 ??? How big a room is it ?
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I would def.prime it with oil . If the finish color is light ,you can match it exactly with oil primer .Here is your 2 coats (1oil,1 latex)
SW has a quick dry oil primer .You can paint over it within the hour.

Guess you didn't read my other post about how bad sherwin sucks!
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I have always primed with coverstain.
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so you think you paid forward ????



but seriously. 1250 ??? How big a room is it ?

It's a foyer, with one giant 2 story wall that goes up the stairs. But I'm telling you, the wallpaper is on there unlike any wallpaper I've seen. I gave a 1250 quote as worse case. Yeah, I guess I did pay it forward!!
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