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Old 09-03-2016, 02:54 AM   #21
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[QUOTE=DJohnston;1267833]I have used snap dry on a solid metal door you have to be a quick painter for this product to work. I prefer Pro Industrial O Voc acrylic or porch and floor enamel from SW for doors.[/QUOTE]


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Yes a quart of porch and floor enamel is a great product for front doors I started using it a couple years ago and have come to find a lot of other painters who also use this product for exterior doors.

The reason it's great for doors it does not scratch easily.
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With all due respect you shouldn't be spraying acrylic paints with a HVLP. You have to thin too much and it comes out too hot. I assume that you are using a turbine and I've never liked them for latex paints. I had one for 10 years and could never get a fine finish from an acrylic,especially to a large surface like a door.

Thinning down a water based coating too much can ruin it. At most you should thin a product 5-10%. I remember having to thin water based paints up to 40% for my HVLP just so it would atomize and lay down properly. Ridiculous. That might be different today with Titan's 6 stage, but the air is still HOT coming out of a turbine. That is a recipe for disaster with a fast drying acrylic.

To the other poster,yes all acrylic paints dry in an hour but this paint is rock hard (supposedly) and won't stick in an hour. You can hang the door and close it in 60 minutes which is unheard of with acrylic paints. It can be tricky handling a door (after an hour) that has been sprayed flat on a saw horse. Fumbling to hang a freshly painted door in which the hinges won't line up(on the first,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th 7th... attempt) can ruin a finish. There are some lousy carpenters out there! And front steel doors are heavy!

There are still fast drying xylene based topcoats available but who likes to work with them? We are talking about exterior coatings.

As far as using Breakthrough instead of this, I won't spend $85/gallon for BT (especially for a GD door) and it doesn't come in semi-gloss,which 90% of my customers prefer.
It is not the only product that dries rock hard in an hour. They are actually playing catch-up with California and a couple of other regional manufacturers with this one. Cali Ultraplate cures hard in an hour and has 90% of it's fully cured hardness in less then two hours. It's been around for years and is cheaper then Snapdry. It's all marketing in reality.
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Idk. Snapdry sounds like a pita to me. I'm going to get some this weekend to give it a good benchmark test if anyone is interested. I doubt it though. But at least i'll have samples and experience with it for my paying customers.
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There is an interesting statement on the Snapdry data sheet i'd like to point out. It's interesting in that it is a clear cut way to weasel out of any "paint and primer in one" BS.
"Recognize that any surface preparation short of total removal of the old coating may compromise the service length of the system". Whaaaaat? That's a new one. They are flat out saying that if there is any failure of the substrate they have no responsibility for any failures. That's actually good thinking on their part. I'm kind of surprised to see them make a statement such as this that most other paint companies shy away from. So If you've managed to read this comment this far without popping an SW loving vein or something, props to SW for doing something that I somewhat agree with. That statement addresses an issue that all professional painters are well aware of that the average consumer isn't. Unfortunately with the current state of paint marketing in general, they have to bury it on a spec sheet that almost no one will every see! If they were to put this on their labels, the average consumer wouldn't buy their paint because they are saying something that runs counter to all of the Behr marketing!
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I recently took some pictures of the french doors that I painted with snap dry (black semi gloss). I primed everything first with SW extreme bonding primer, then two coats of snap dry on doors, and three on the muntins...they did not like "accepting" paint, neither the primer nor the snap dry...but I persevered. By the way, I did everything without removing the doors, weather stripping, or hardware, and I brushed or mini-rollered and then tipped off.

Here are a couple of "before" pictures of the doors to give you an idea of what I had to cover. You can see my gel stain sample above the one door (I had to gel stain the interior side).

This was my first test with gel stain. It had to be brushed, as ragging took off too much. The real problem for me was staining the areas above and below the glass panes. All the grain is vertical, and I could not get a uniform color in these areas by brushing vertically...darker splotches collected in the middle of these narrow areas. I ended up creating "panels" by using yellow frog tape where the sides of the doors meet the areas above and below the panes, and brushing these against the grain, which I hated to do, but it did look much better with this technique. Not perfect, but much better, and pleasing to the customer.

I know the interior pictures aren't the best. This house gets little natural light.
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Hey Semipro John,

Good lookin work! Keep it up.

As for the gel stain some brands are better than others. Avoid minwax it's a pain to work with for that particular function. Instead try the Varathane line. Good flow and open time.

If you really want to get it good, use some high quality wiping stain.

Keep up the good work!
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Idk. Snapdry sounds like a pita to me. I'm going to get some this weekend to give it a good benchmark test if anyone is interested. I doubt it though. But at least i'll have samples and experience with it for my paying customers.
Got any results?

Just curious.
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Just tossing it out there.

We like to use Solo on our doors/trim. Levels good and has decent blocking. Dried out pretty fast. Never had a sticking issue at end of day or what have you. Snapdry sounds like a marketing play. Even told them (sherwin) about it, kind of brushed it off lol.
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I finally got to use the snap-dry on a front door, two panel wood grain look. It seems more like a acrylic/alkyd than a pure acrylic like Solo. I also used some Solo the same day and it sucked, it was a deep base, and I have used a lot of Solo over the years. Solo was very thick and dried way too quick. I was in the shade, but the snap-dry laid out very nice. First coat looked iffy on all the brushed areas, but second coat hide was fine.
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Just used this product on the outside of two wood doors both of which consisted of large glass panels with only about twelve inches of wood around perimeter. They had previously been stained and were in rough shape from UV damage. Prepped them and primed with SW's exterior oil based primer then applied the SD with brush and micro-fiber weinie roller. Weather was overcast and on the cooler side. End result was as good as anything else in this situation - but I was able to work pretty fast. Doing an entire regular door this way, with this product, or in warmer conditions, might be another story.
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Hey Semipro John,

Good lookin work! Keep it up.

As for the gel stain some brands are better than others. Avoid minwax it's a pain to work with for that particular function. Instead try the Varathane line. Good flow and open time.

If you really want to get it good, use some high quality wiping stain.

Keep up the good work!
Thanks, and yes, I used Minwax. It was a pain. Very little open time. Can you use wiping stain on plastic or fiber glass? I'm a novice when it comes to staining. I tried ragging some of the gel stain on, and almost none of it stayed on the door. I figured this happened due to the material the doors are made out of, so I used a natural bristle purdy.
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Finally got to use the new snapdry. I did notice how much faster it dries. I can't comment on how fast it cures though.

The hide wasn't the greatest but that could be because of my 310 fine finish tip choice. If I did it again I'd choose a bigger orafice. I noticed how the fast the spray dried in the air, like dry fall. Which is fantastic since I was spraying in the same garage with a BMW.

I had a challenge with this 8 ft door figuring out how to prop it since it's too tall to lean and turn while wet. This set up worked great. I ended up doing 3 coats letting it cure overnight and hung it this morning.

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Finally got to use the new snapdry. I did notice how much faster it dries. I can't comment on how fast it cures though.

The hide wasn't the greatest but that could be because of my 310 fine finish tip choice. If I did it again I'd choose a bigger orafice. I noticed how the fast the spray dried in the air, like dry fall. Which is fantastic since I was spraying in the same garage with a BMW.

I had a challenge with this 8 ft door figuring out how to prop it since it's too tall to lean and turn while wet. This set up worked great. I ended up doing 3 coats letting it cure overnight and hung it this morning.

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No, actually. They are both fairly short. This is a 2 million home so everything is larger, bigger, upgraded.

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That is one big a55 garage!
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It's a big a55 house. I'm glad I don't own it. So much maintenance it's unreal.

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To me it just seems as if they created Snapdry to solve a problem that was a result of their other products being subpar. Kind of like trying to fix something without making is seem like anything was wrong in the first place. SW always had a problem with blocking on a lot of their paints when i was working for them.

In other words just another marketing twist to hide a shortcoming they had.
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No doubt. But I suppose if you've got the money and hire maintenance people it becomes less of an issue. I'm hoping to pick up a nice big job in January for a couple selling this massive house that their mother used to live in. She's in her 80's and tiny. I have no idea how she was even getting around in this place. Loft bedrooms with steep stairs, etc. Basement suite is bigger than my entire house!

There's no way she was doing any of the maintenance on this place.
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For many people that own $2 - $25+ million homes they understand that deferring maintenance will only cost them more in the long run.




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