paint_booger

It's all about production!

DeanV

I must say, nothing makes me feel more like a craftsman than when I am brushing out interior trim. I like spraying new construction trimwork, so far I stubbornly refuse to spray an exterior (do not know if I will be able to fight that one forever though).

Joewho

I'm an old school guy too.

Learned everything the hard way, but I learned.

I've nothing against sprayers, just hate using them. Worked for a company a couple years ago and chose touch up rather than the better paying sprayer position. To this day, I still believe that an exterior skillfully painted with a brush is better than a spray job. Even if you backroll, nothing beats the way a brush pushes the paint into all the orfices. It's hard to find people that will pay for the real deal though.

I also spent a lot of years with no mask. Nothing against them either. Just can't stand to have that thing on my face. But, with yrs. of paint fumes and double smokers cough, I have to use it now...........if I can find it.

Slingah

I am old school I guess...been painting since 1983....from extreme high end residental to get it done commercial...

paint_booger

Hey Joe ...

What in the heck is "double smoker's cough"?

vermontpainter

Old school? NEPS disparages me for brushing everything.

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aaron61

I started on the biz when I was 13 for my brother in law. I did nothing but putty holes, sand, maybe some masking if they would let me then at 4:30 they would give me 10 gls. of keroseen and I cleaned all the old boys brushes while they watched and drank beer. If I did a good job they would let me have a couple. By the time I was 17 I was there boss. It was the best training I could ever get. Watch and learn, ask questions, carry the big ladders, volunteer for everything especialy the high crazy stuff no fall protection, alot of dryfall and double shifts. Thoe were the days!!!...... I Think????

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bikerboy

If you work for me, your pay is based on a combination of production and quality. I don't care how FAST you can apply paint, if I gotta go back and fix it.

That said, as a business owner production does play a large part of turning a profit. As said earlier, I've seen some jobs sprayed that could have been done faster just by picking up a brush.

The best painters know which method works best in a given situation.

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paint_booger

Sounds wildly familiar. Lots of money ... little cash ... right? Now the money's better ... but the headaches are getting bigger ... been there.

There comes a time when you have nothing left to prove ... and ya just plain have fun!

bikerboy

Actually we are a small business, make a decent living, and have lots of fun. Ya gotta have a thick skin to work for our family, we like to break balls.

Headaches are no worse than working for others. I grew up around this business, I knew what I was in for when taking over and it's a life I chose. As far as proving anything, the only people I have to "Prove Anything" to are my customers and my employees. I lead from the front and my employees deliver a good days work. I'd say thats pretty good. (not perfect) and most every one is happy.

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paint_booger

Sounds like an awesome start, and some great work ethic.

NEPS.US

VP, you have a nice market up there and I hope you stay busy with it for years to come. My business is a little different.

I just criticize those who bash spraying as a whole. Any hack can grab a brush, roller or a sprayer and ruin a job. It takes just as much training to learn how to spray the correct way as it does to brush and roll. In fact there is more prep work involed with interior spraying. Of course you must have a solid foundation and learn how to paint the old fashon way... with a brush and roller. I spray for production and quality and as always, it depends on the circumstance.

I find that the companies that usually give "the art of spraying" a bad name are usually those who are cutting corners, hiring illegals, using low grade products, carry no insurance and have no professional training at all. They will always be out there under cutting our prices. The industry has changed and learing the correct procedures for spraying to increase production is something most legitimate companies will need to incorporate in order to grow and stay competitive.

vermontpainter

NEPS

I suck as a sprayer. You would fire me on the first day. Well, you would probably keep me, but you wouldnt let me spray much, thats for sure.

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NEPS.US

I hate to say it, but I do 90% of my spraying. I can't handle spending hours upon hours of prep time and having someone screw it up in 2 seconds with a sprayer. Depending on the job (of course), but most of our millwork looks like pieces of funiture. I am training someone now but I usually let the reigns go for priming, ceilings and any back roll work...pretty hard to screw those up...mill work is mine. One of the many reasons why it tough to grow a successful business that focuses on quality....there are no good resources out there for training ...even when I find a decent union guy he is usually burnt out.

CApainter

If "Old school" was determined to be of value in todays economy, we'd be fighting wars with muskets!

slickshift

No
I do mostly res repaints (occupied)
I don't own a sprayer, but have rented one when needed (rarely)

Lol...I once laid down 30,000 sq. ft. of paint (commercial new const.) with an 18 incher because I didn't want to rent a sprayer...too cheap...ha ha ha....

But there's still a client that wants to have it brush and rolled
I'll do it

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vermontpainter

If old school wasnt determined to be of value in todays economy, my crew would be working about 2 days a month.

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Shaggy Dog

When i say "old school" i meant .That their are guys out there today that can't brush or roll cuz they only were taught to spray..i can spray lots of things but i was taught to be a complete painter before i picked up a spray gun..

NEPS.US

I agree. There should be a progression from each phase ....you have to learn how to crawl before you can get up and walk ...have to learn how to walk before you can run.....

Shaggy Dog

When i got out of highschool 1994.The union painters were on strike.So my dad knew a guy from the paint store that did house's.I went to work for him to spend my days and some nights completely masking a hole f****N house so he could spray it out.Or watch him paint a 6 panel door from the bottom up.Or have two guys cutting out of a FULL quart can.This man later went in to commercial work and let's just say that he is no longer around..A spray man with a bunch of laborers masking and cleaning is not considered painting in my book..