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Old 10-28-2008, 05:50 PM   #1
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Default Will guardz seal in remant wallpaper glue?

I need to do some drywall repair behind the HO's who removed the wallpaper and want to prime with guardz to seal up the drywall. If HO's remove wallpaper I usually oil prime to seal any minor residual glue, will Guardz seal that up as well?

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Gardz is about the single best thing to use in a situation like that, in my opinion. Pole sand the walls to remove excess dried glue and apply a coat of Gardz prior to your patching. Then follow with a coat of latex primer. Beautiful!
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Gardz is about the single best thing to use in a situation like that, in my opinion. Pole sand the walls to remove excess dried glue and apply a coat of Gardz prior to your patching. Then follow with a coat of latex primer. Beautiful!
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Gardz is about the single best thing to use

Not to be argumentative, but I would bet anyone here who has used Draw Tite, would say it is better.

http://www.scotchpaint.com/drawtite.html
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Why does Guardz (since it has water in it) not reactivate the glue like paint does? I always thought that oil was needed so there was no water to reactivate the glue.
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Not to be argumentative, but I would bet anyone here who has used Draw Tite, would say it is better.
True, but after going through the hassle of trying to get some shipped, I gave up and settled for Gardz. It will suffice. If Scotch could ever get their distribution lines set up, I'd be a DrawTite guy for sure.

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Why does Guardz (since it has water in it) not reactivate the glue like paint does? I always thought that oil was needed so there was no water to reactivate the glue.
Gardz might reactivate the paste a bit, but the real trick to it is that when it dries, it wont re-wet, not even under itself.

Click this link: http://www.squidoo.com/hangingwallpaper
Scroll down the page and there is a post there about the benefits of Gardz.
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True, but after going through the hassle of trying to get some shipped, I gave up and settled for Gardz. It will suffice. If Scotch could ever get their distribution lines set up, I'd be a DrawTite guy for sure.
Did you talk to the D-T guy in Asheville? There is hope on the horizon. He said they are really working on it.

Now as to covering residue paste with anything. Keep in mind "minor residual" paste. You want as little as possible remaining on the wall. I don't have a can in front of me, but if I remember there is language about it's ability to seal some amount of paste.

BUT, as I posed to a Zinsser rep, wouldn't priming over residual paste - with the reactivating the paste on the wall - be just like throwing a hand full of paste in a bucket and then applying ? Knowing how Jack Ford preaches against "adulterating produts", wouldn't this phuck up the properties of Gardz and void all warrantees?? He couldn't answer and was obviously uncomfortable with the question.
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True, but after going through the hassle of trying to get some shipped, I gave up and settled for Gardz. It will suffice. If Scotch could ever get their distribution lines set up, I'd be a DrawTite guy for sure.

Yea,well, there is that, hopefully as Mr Bill says they will get their act together soon.
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We tried drawtite twice, and then started using gardz because it was available from our supplier, and we didn't have to drive to the other side of town to pick it up. I have used gardz quite a bit, and have become a big fan, the guy that used the drawtite said he actually liked the gardz better, that it was easier to apply. That might be because when he first used drawtite he wasn't prepaired for how watery it was though.

All I know is that either one beats to heck the old method of bin or kilz over everything. I always had people insisting that was all you needed, then we'd spend days cutting out blisters.
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How does someone with 1 post "reappear"

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I had a large commercial project that required a primer after stripping wallcovering. Some residual glue remained. According to the Zinnser Rep, the Guardz has a hydrophobic resin that is better at sealing glue than Odorless. We used several gallons and had no issue.
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Since I posted this in 2008, we have only used Gardz after wallpaper removal and it has worked great. If you leave a lot of paste on the walls, who knows, but if you wash off as much as possible Gardz seems to be good insurance for any that may remain.
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I have used Gardz often and it has always worked great. I even had a job where wallpaper was stuck on unprimed drywall. I couldn't remove it so I just cut out all of the loose areas, applied Gardz then skim coated the wall. It came out good and has been a few years with no problems.
Some lower end houses and rentals I have worked on also had wallpaper over raw drywall. I would use Gardz, then maybe a quick skim then spay knockdown over it to hide the imperfections.

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