New construction painting sequence? - Page 3 - Paint Talk

**RCP** · 08-17-2008, 07:36 PM

I can understand that, just couldn't figure out why you would spray primer on drywall and brush it on the wood, especially if it is all up. So you can see a difference on spray primer/brush finish as opposed to brush primer/brush finish? Sounds like the trim is not always up?

vermontpainter · 08-17-2008, 07:55 PM

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I can understand that, just couldn't figure out why you would spray primer on drywall and brush it on the wood, especially if it is all up. So you can see a difference on spray primer/brush finish as opposed to brush primer/brush finish? Sounds like the trim is not always up?

Confidentially, its a snob factor thing...

DeanV · 08-17-2008, 08:16 PM

That would be cool if brushed out trim on high end work became the next big thing. I get the best results spraying trim for new work, but I could definitely do the brush by hand thing too.

vermontpainter · 08-17-2008, 08:26 PM

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That would be cool if brushed out trim on high end work became the next big thing. I get the best results spraying trim for new work, but I could definitely do the brush by hand thing too.

I wouldnt base anything on the fickle market that I work in...

**RCP** · 08-17-2008, 08:28 PM

We get good results spraying as well.

Mantis · 08-17-2008, 08:28 PM

Most of the "high end" work we do is almost always pigmented precat lacquer. I dont get too many brush jobs, though i think i still would spray the primer coat.

vermontpainter · 08-17-2008, 08:31 PM

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We get good results spraying as well.

RC

That looks great, and I bet it feels good to the touch too. There are different ways to get to the same place quality-wise. I will add you to my disclaimer.

Mantis · 08-17-2008, 08:33 PM

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We get good results spraying as well.

clearly photoshopped.

Kidding! looks great

tsunamicontract · 08-17-2008, 08:48 PM

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We get good results spraying as well.

Dam RC, must have had the flash on. Thats amazing. What did you coat that with and what did you spray it with?

**RCP** · 08-17-2008, 09:05 PM

Thanks, all our trim is sprayed with Sherwin Williams Southwest Builders Sologloss Latex with a440i and a 412 tip. The walls are sprayed with the Speeflo and 619 tip, two coats primer, two coats finish. Trim is sprayed, masked off and then walls are sprayed. Average home is 30 man hours.

tsunamicontract · 08-17-2008, 09:08 PM

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Average home is 30 man hours.

time for me to rethink how I paint?

Mantis · 08-17-2008, 10:02 PM

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time for me to rethink how I paint?

Seriously. My man should open a School. RC's Paint Workshop taking enrollments now! Send your enrollment fees to RC at Paypal@Mantis.com

tsunamicontract · 08-17-2008, 10:25 PM

30 hours, colors, and looking like that? yah sign me up. Is that maybe 1 masker one sprayer and two days?

**RCP** · 08-17-2008, 11:03 PM

The man hours is something you don't see mentioned when people freak at new construction prices. With the right GCs and supers you can knock out 2 in a week or so and still do a quality job. It takes the proper materials, equipment, training and procedures.
We could never do this in an occupied home or do the prep required to get the results needed in an older home.

Mantis · 08-17-2008, 11:34 PM

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The man hours is something you don't see mentioned when people freak at new construction prices. With the right GCs and supers you can knock out 2 in a week or so and still do a quality job. It takes the proper materials, equipment, training and procedures.
We could never do this in an occupied home or do the prep required to get the results needed in an older home.

30 man hours just seems really low. Even on the cheapest 800sq ft condos with pre-primed time and rubber base that we've done, we generally spend at least double that amount of time. 30 man hours is what we have just in prep time.

DeanV · 08-18-2008, 12:22 AM

The quickest homes I have done in 45 hours by myself for new construction (1000 sq. ft.). These are prefinished vinyl windows, preprimed mdf trim, two coats on trim, no repriming, shoot primer on stomped ceilings only, cut and roll one coat of tinted primer and one coat of flat paint on walls. These are not what I would call high quality work, but not done with a complete blow and go mentaility either.

PVPainter · 08-18-2008, 06:09 PM

30 man hours, what kind of sq ft are we talking here???

**RCP** · 08-18-2008, 06:31 PM

1400 to 1800 floor.
Try to go in before trim to vacuum before base.
Day 1 12 man hours
Caulk and putty and thoroughly vacuum.
Put hinge mags on doors. Mask windows and garage floor.
Day 2 3 man hours
Spray primer two coats.
Day 3 5 man hours
Second Prep, sand , patch, check all areas.
Spray two coats finish on all trim.
Day 4 10 man hours
Pop pin and move doors to garage and mask trim and base.
Spray walls 2 coats
Take paper down, doors back on.
Done
We usually two houses at a time.
Most homes have vinyl windows and simple base. We do closet shelves also.

Mantis · 08-18-2008, 07:11 PM

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1400 to 1800 floor.
Try to go in before trim to vacuum before base.
Day 1 12 man hours
Caulk and putty and thoroughly vacuum.
Put hinge mags on doors. Mask windows and garage floor.
Day 2 3 man hours
Spray primer two coats.
Day 3 5 man hours
Second Prep, sand , patch, check all areas.
Spray two coats finish on all trim.
Day 4 10 man hours
Pop pin and move doors to garage and mask trim and base.
Spray walls 2 coats
Take paper down, doors back on.
Done
We usually two houses at a time.
Most homes have vinyl windows and simple base. We do closet shelves also.

There it is! You're flushing off your nail holes with a lightweight filler or something right? No backsanding before primer? And why 2 coats of primer?

Bender · 08-18-2008, 07:20 PM

RC, how do you avoid flashing on the walls around the door frames? I see that quite often. I assume the walls are raw?