Stolen Content - Page 2 - Paint Talk

johnpaint · 02-07-2010, 12:54 PM

OK, I went ahead and took the rest down. would you know where I could get some others to replace the ones I took down?

mr.fixit · 02-07-2010, 02:13 PM

a neighbor of mine owns a store that sells equpiment for bands and dj's and such. he had a girl managing his website and she stole a bunch of photos from a competitor. The competitor called him and he was unaware that she had done it. He told her to remove all of it and went on vacation when he got back a month later he had a court summons waiting, He paid a $25,000.00 and she got fired because she decided that the guy did not own the content

mr.fixit · 02-07-2010, 02:18 PM

Hey daArch I cant help but saying I dont know if i would be so proud about yelling obscenities to a woman

**RCP** · 02-07-2010, 02:54 PM

Here is a post from CT that has some good advice.
http://www.contractortalk.com/f11/st...18/#post805782

Last Craftsman · 02-07-2010, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michfan

If you are, please remove the rest,

Lol. Who has the presence of mind and composure to say please, in a situation such as this?

Michfan your diplomacy is unrivaled.

straight_lines · 02-07-2010, 05:21 PM

Its the internet guys what do you expect? If it isn't hurting your business then I wouldn't waste my time with it.

George Z · 02-07-2010, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by straight_lines

Its the internet guys what do you expect? If it isn't hurting your business then I wouldn't waste my time with it.

It can hurt you.
Google doesn't like duplicate content and you hope the spiders know which content is original.
Also, the guy had my employment application web-form,
word for word, including our company name (Ecopainting).
I worked hard to create that, easy for him to come and use it without asking.
He is in our area and he was using michfan's site thinking nobody will know.
I guess that lasted an hour or two.

NEPS.US · 02-07-2010, 06:02 PM

Jason123????

George Z · 02-07-2010, 06:15 PM

No,
Jason is cool and respectful.

This is the painter thief

He did take almost everything down.
One thing with the internet now, it's a small world.
You are either with the good guys or not.

NEPS.US · 02-07-2010, 06:20 PM

I've seen Ecopainting and GTA Painting on a few sites.

Last Craftsman · 02-07-2010, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by straight_lines

Its the internet guys what do you expect?

FTS.

I expect the same rules to apply after the internet that applied before the internet.

If it wasn't ok to steal things before, it's not ok to steal things now.

Let the little worms come up with their OWN business name and literature.

I mean what kind of lazy thinking is required to steal someone's busniess name AND their web design?

It would be insane if that was the new standard in the world was to just use someone else's business name and marketing.

George Z · 02-07-2010, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEPS.US

I've seen Ecopainting and GTA Painting on a few sites.

GTA (Greater Toronto Area) can be used by anyone of course and having it in the URL I guess can help. Like www.gtapainters.com
Three of us work together on it.
All-Chroma and myself are member of Painttalk as well.

"Eco" is trendy of course and ecopainting, ecopainters eco-paints,
eco-anything can be seen anywhere.
Our name is about 10 years old, way before Al Gore.

Hope that helps

NEPS.US · 02-07-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Z

GTA (Greater Toronto Area) can be used by anyone of course and having it in the URL I guess can help. Like www.gtapainters.com
Three of us work together on it.
All-Chroma and myself are member of Painttalk as well.

"Eco" is trendy of course and ecopainting, ecopainters eco-paints,
eco-anything can be seen anywhere.
Our name is about 10 years old, way before Al Gore.

Hope that helps

You should of Trademarked it 10 years ago. Whenever I see it I think of your company.

George Z · 02-07-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEPS.US

You should of Trademarked it 10 years ago. Whenever I see it I think of your company.

I didn't think I could, but didn't look into it seriously.

**daArch** · 02-07-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.fixit

Hey daArch I cant help but saying I dont know if i would be so proud about yelling obscenities to a woman

I am not a sexist. I refuse to treat a woman as an inferior, weaker, more delicate human being. A lying thief receives equal treatment from me, irregardless of what's between the legs.

Rcon · 02-08-2010, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daArch

I am not a sexist. I refuse to treat a woman as an inferior, weaker, more delicate human being. A lying thief receives equal treatment from me, irregardless of what's between the legs.

If someone has it coming then someone has it coming. I don`t give a rats ass if it`s male or female.

michfan · 02-08-2010, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Craftsman

Lol. Who has the presence of mind and composure to say please, in a situation such as this?

Michfan your diplomacy is unrivaled.

Induspray · 02-08-2010, 12:27 PM

I posted this last year but it is exactly relevant to the topic. We had an offender 2 weeks ago copy dozens of our pictures and content from our site. We send DMCA notices to him and his service provider and it was taken down in one day. (he did send us an apology letter blaming his daughter saying she found them on google and thought they were public domain- nice guy to blame his daughter)

(Originally posted 12-17-2010)
We have people copying content off our site all the time, our project pictures, content, buttons, meta tags etc. Go ahead and steal it. What we do is notify Google through their copyright infringement section and when they get around to it they will penalize the positioning of the offending site, in some extremes they have completely blacklisted the site . The best thing is that the offending site is never notified why their ratings have decreased. I have seen some of our competitors drop off the first page of google after we sent in a notice, maybe it was coincidence, maybe not. When you think about it isnt it better to let the offender use your content but at their own peril. If you are extremeley possesive about your content you can put copy sentry on your site for $5 a month for the basic service and it will email you when someone uses any of your content at their site http://www.copyscape.com

Here is a sample letter to send to the copyright offender for DMCA (Digital Media Copyright Act)

DMCA copyright infringement takedown notification template

========== BEGIN SAMPLE DMCA TAKEDOWN NOTICE ==========

Attn: Copyright Agent - Offending website or Service provider where the offending site is hosted

Pursuant to 17 USC 512(c)(3)(A), this communication serves as a statement that:
I am [the exclusive rights holder | the duly authorized representative of the exclusive rights holder] for [title of copyrighted material being infringed upon, along with any identifying material such as ISBNs, publication dates, etc -- or, if the material is a web page, the URL];

These exclusive rights are being violated by material available upon your site at the following URL(s): [URLs of infringing material];

I have a good faith belief that the use of this material in such a fashion is not authorized by the copyright holder, the copyright holder's agent, or the law;

Under penalty of perjury in a United States court of law, I state that the information contained in this notification is accurate, and that I am authorized to act on the behalf of the exclusive rights holder for the material in question;

I may be contacted by the following methods (include all): [physical address, telephone number, and email address];

I hereby request that you remove or disable access to this material as it appears on your service in as expedient a fashion as possible. Thank you.
Regards,
[your full legal name]

========== END SAMPLE DMCA TAKEDOWN NOTICE ==========

Now, if it really drives you nuts to know that someone elses site is broadcasting your content as their own and you want to devote some time to it here are the steps I would use

1) Email them and ask them to remove the copied material. Be polite but stern, telling them you will pursue legal means if this is not addressed within 48 hours. In the US, you can cite the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and copyright law violation.

2) If no response, have a lawyer send the same type of message.

3) If no response, contact their ISP and ask that they take action, copying your prior correspondence as backup. In the US, cite DMCA and ask how to proceed.

4) Contact a copyright lawyer and ask for legal advise on possible action. While often difficult to pursue, penalties for copyright violation are severe.

5) If totally stuck, change your content.

Usually the polite email does it. When from a lawyer I've seen VERY fast response on this -- almost obsequious if they realize they can be sued.

If it comes down to it, see if their website gets spidered by "the wayback machine" - http://www.archive.org/index.php in which case even though they may do a last minute revision on their site, you'll have a record of their infringement.

Once a suit is filed, you'll need some evidence, preferably from a third party, and The Wayback Machine can provide that evidence.

The Copyscape site noted earlier seems worthy for detecting future infringement but in your case you've already latched on to the varmints.

I'd create a single cease and desist letter and send it to ALL the parties of interest at once (CC the email to the website admin, their host, your lawyer, their domain registrar, Google, etc.).

Chances are the problem will remedied in short order. If the infringement has been in place for a lengthy period of time (as shown from previous spidered versions of their site on The Wayback Machine), you might be able to file a damages suit in addition to the infringement. I.e., any income they generated from their site can be presented as evidence of damages to you.

For international claims, I believe the registrar's involvement can have the site/domain revoked (shut down), regardless of their home country - I think.

high fibre · 02-08-2010, 11:05 PM

ive had an imposter here in my area for over 5 years.

ive caught him several times, and people have called me many times to tell me about his shennanigans.

he went to an employment agency last week looking for a job, he was willing to flip burgers he is hurting so bad.

when the girl at the employment agency was asking him questions about his prior work history, he proudly stated "im john the painter"

she said she had a good lead for him and to call this number (mine)

i painted the empolyment agency's exterior, the owners house ,her peacock barn, and built them an aviary.

jason123 · 02-13-2010, 04:25 PM

Wow he thinks Im "cool" too!