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Old 05-12-2015, 08:42 AM   #1
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Saw something that made my blood boil: Winder$ 10 will be subscription based.

So I tried to research this.

There is a lot of unclear hype coming from Redmond about "unifying" platforms, "evolving pricing plans", "productivity offerings", "one-year free upgrade promotion ", "as a service", and so forth.

The more I read, the more confused I get. And you can be sure I trust M$ not to fleece us sheep
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Most everything is going subscription based now.
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Saw something that made my blood boil: Winder$ 10 will be subscription based.

So I tried to research this.

There is a lot of unclear hype coming from Redmond about "unifying" platforms, "evolving pricing plans", "productivity offerings", "one-year free upgrade promotion ", "as a service", and so forth.

The more I read, the more confused I get. And you can be sure I trust M$ not to fleece us sheep
Oh, Jeez. We've been trying to limp along until 10 came out, but this is one more thing that gives me pause. Maybe it's time to make the move to a fruit-based platform.

Besides, K. gets a new machine paid for by the feds and Gough Jr. just took a job in Cupertino....
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Oh, Jeez. We've been trying to limp along until 10 came out, but this is one more thing that gives me pause. Maybe it's time to make the move to a fruit-based platform.

Besides, K. gets a new machine paid for by the feds and Gough Jr. just took a job in Cupertino....
I didn't know there was a fruit named Linux !!!!
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I didn't know there was a fruit named Linux !!!!
Funny, Gough Jr. runs Linux on his Macs. I wonder how that will play.
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I liked Windows XP. And now I'm really comfortable with Windows 7. I guess that makes me resistant to change and, well, old? I wish they would refrain from offering up glitch-laden "new" operating systems every year or two, but I'm weird that way.
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I liked Windows XP. And now I'm really comfortable with Windows 7. I guess that makes me resistant to change and, well, old? I wish they would refrain from offering up glitch-laden "new" operating systems every year or two, but I'm weird that way.
Search for the M$ hype about this new OS and the benefits of what they are doing. They say this will be the last OS they are going to put out with only updates instead of periodic brand new platforms.

I promise you will wet yourself laughing, if you don't drown yourself in tears of disgust.
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I've been keeping up with win10 news. I've been using the preview builds on my desktop and like allot of what I see.
cant wait for the final retail version.

They still have allot of things to clear up but from my understanding;
free upgrade in the first year for any win7 and win8.1 users.

I assume after that first year they will bring large updates (service packs) that you have to pay. I don't see a problem with that model, Apple has been doing incremental updates and no one blinks an eye. I don't understand why Microsoft cant.

You want the latest you have to pay for it, that's basically what it comes down too.
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I've been keeping up with win10 news. I've been using the preview builds on my desktop and like allot of what I see.
cant wait for the final retail version.

They still have allot of things to clear up but from my understanding;
free upgrade in the first year for any win7 and win8.1 users.

I assume after that first year they will bring large updates (service packs) that you have to pay. I don't see a problem with that model, Apple has been doing incremental updates and no one blinks an eye. I don't understand why Microsoft cant.

You want the latest you have to pay for it, that's basically what it comes down too.
And what if we don't WANT updates? What if we are happy with the status quo?

How about developing a stable platform the FIRST time?

This is the American business model. You grow so damn big and are so driven to profits by the stock holders that you MUST build in three year obsolescence which requires millions of users to shell out for "upgrades" & "improvements" when the old version is "sunsetted" .

I'd be happy with a reliable stable vehicle that got me where I want at a reasonable speed. Let the gamers buy a Lamborghini every freaking year. Just let me drive my Fairlane until I drop. But do I have a choice of models, performance, mileage, and extras ? Nope.
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And what if we don't WANT updates? What if we are happy with the status quo?

How about developing a stable platform the FIRST time?

This is the American business model. You grow so damn big and are so driven to profits by the stock holders that you MUST build in three year obsolescence which requires millions of users to shell out for "upgrades" & "improvements" when the old version is "sunsetted" .

I'd be happy with a reliable stable vehicle that got me where I want at a reasonable speed. Let the gamers buy a Lamborghini every freaking year. Just let me drive my Fairlane until I drop. But do I have a choice of models, performance, mileage, and extras ? Nope.
I get what your saying, and agree with just about all your points. I actually want to purchase an older F-150 (92-94), they're built to last ( want to find one with out rust) .


But an OS that never updates?, I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing. Any OS in any platform anywhere will need to be updated, bugs and vulnerabilities will be found.

The perfect OS does not exist if someone is working on one, It would never be released.

I fee like Microsoft is fairly good when it comes to supporting their older OS's. Win XP just this last Year stopped receiving official updates I believe.

At the end of the day if you don't want updates, simply don't update.
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Microsoft: Windows 10 will not be sold as a subscription
http://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-win...-subscription/

At its press event today, Microsoft announced that Windows 10 will be a free upgrade for Windows 7 and Windows 8 users during its first year of availability. There was some confusion, however, when Microsoft's Terry Myerson started talking about Windows 10 "as a service." Did that mean that after that first year of free availability, Windows 10 would cost an annual fee? I asked Myerson for clarification after the presentation, and he confirmed that there will be no additional fees attached to Windows 10, whenever you buy it.
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And yes, Windows 10 will be a free upgrade—at least for consumers: “As we announced earlier this year, for the first time ever, we are offering the full versions of Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Mobile and Windows 10 Pro as a free and easy upgrade for qualifying Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year after launch,” Microsoft’s Tony Prophet, the company’s corporate vice president of Windows and search, wrote in a blog post. “Once you upgrade, you have Windows 10 for free on that device.”

Microsoft has said previously that Windows 10 beta testers, known as Insiders, will receive a free upgrade to the so-called “RTM” version of the software, the same version that will be shipped to stores and to hardware makers. Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 users will be able to upgrade for free, as long as they do it within the first year that the OS ships, http://www.pcworld.com/article/29220...ins-murky.html
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I can't wait for windows 10, 8 was the flop. MS always gets it right the second time.
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Thank you Cricket, but this line from the second link (written around noon today) sure leaves the waters a little muddied

"Microsoft did not say, however, what Windows 10’s eventual price would be, nor did the company say whether it would be offered on a subscription model (or what that subscription cost would be). "

I been planning on waiting to buy a new computer until after 10 was out, I was hoping it was going to be so last month.

Perhaps if I can sort this all out, I will buy with one with 8.1 and take advantage of the free upgrade - if I can be certain M$ isn't taking an Adobe or Intuit path to corporate profits through subscriptions or rapid sunsetting.
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I just signed up for the free windows 10 upgrade.
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I just signed up for the free windows 10 upgrade.
how does that work that you "just signed up".

W 10 ain't due for release until 7/29.

My new box with 8.1 arrived last Saturday and I saw that I could "sign up" for 10 and didn't quite understand what the benefit was.
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how does that work that you "just signed up".

W 10 ain't due for release until 7/29.

My new box with 8.1 arrived last Saturday and I saw that I could "sign up" for 10 and didn't quite understand what the benefit was.
a little window box shows up in the bottom right of your desktop and says "get windows 10"
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a little window box shows up in the bottom right of your desktop and says "get windows 10"
Exactly. A little pop up window. It started last week. Some PC's are eligible for the free upgrade.

When Windows 10 is ready it will automatically download to me PC. Then I can install it any time. And yes it's the full version.
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Thanks, but I do not embrace Big Brother auto downloading something onto my computer.

I sure I hope I can CHOOSE when I want to download it. Hell, I don't even have the thing fully functional with 8.1 yet.

And as Cricket quoted, 7 and 8.1 should be eligible for 10 for a year after release.

I may want to see how buggy it is.
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Does this help any?...

http://www.cnet.com/products/microsoft-windows-10/
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but there's still plenty left to iron out before the next generation of Windows is humming along on our PC
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