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Old 09-05-2011, 06:37 PM   #21
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Thanks for the vid Josey but I still don't see how that would work in my situation. I'm not going to take the time to mask 1,000 l ft of carpet every apartment.

You can't seriously be spray painting walls in apartments...Sorry I assumed that was new construction...Whatever method you spray with I'd cover every sq inch of the carpet,appliances windows,etc...That's too much prep time for an apartment..Just cut and roll the sucka.
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You can't seriously be spray painting walls in apartments...Sorry I assumed that was new construction...Whatever method you spray with I'd cover every sq inch of the carpet,appliances windows,etc...That's too much prep time for an apartment..Just cut and roll the sucka.
Just to keep a little dust off of dingy carpet that's gonna get cleaned anyway? Sorry my friend but we have to agree to disagree here. If it was navy blue berber I'd be doing it differently but I've never had an issue this way and it's standard in my area unless they're high end units.
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I got to agree with the extension as well.

Even for a 395 it sounds over worked.
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Only time I've used a tip extension it started spitting. Por que?
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:58 PM   #25
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Yeah it's better to have your head buried in a cloud of overspray...Saving your back is for wimps!

And I'm talking about a 1',18" or 2' extension.

This guy does some good videos.

Spraying a garage door - YouTube
See this in not very good either, all the joints in the middle will be covered ok , but the the panel joints at the top and bottom will have holidays in them.
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Damn John, not very good EITHER? I'm hurt How would you spray an apartment wall where the carpet is not being replaced but you don't have the time to protect it?

I do appreciate your input though. I can't think of anything I do so well I can't get better at it.
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Damn John, not very good EITHER? I'm hurt How would you spray an apartment wall where the carpet is not being replaced but you don't have the time to protect it?

I do appreciate your input though. I can't think of anything I do so well I can't get better at it.
I'm sorry man I said that wrong, You did ok, I've seen worse. Someone posted one the other day I guess I was thinking of. If you ever get a chance to watch a commercial paint sprayer, take it all in and learn from him.
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I'm sorry man I said that wrong, You did ok, I've seen worse. Someone posted one the other day I guess I was thinking of. If you ever get a chance to watch a commercial paint sprayer, take it all in and learn from him.
Funny I'm meeting a former SW rep who works for a very reputable paint company here in Richmond as an estimator tomorrow. Mostly to shoot the chit but I'm going to bring up the fact that I'm available and ready to learn if they'll have me for a few days.

The more I hang out here the more I wish I had waited longer to jump into the contracting world. It's too late to become an employee again for me but I can still learn from more experienced painters.

And you still didn't tell me how you would approach my particular situation The conventional top to bottom doesn't work for this. Has no one here ever sprayed any other way?
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See this in not very good either, all the joints in the middle will be covered ok , but the the panel joints at the top and bottom will have holidays in them.
That is incorrect..I just did a garage door that way and it was flawless.
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Funny I'm meeting a former SW rep who works for a very reputable paint company here in Richmond as an estimator tomorrow. Mostly to shoot the chit but I'm going to bring up the fact that I'm available and ready to learn if they'll have me for a few days.

The more I hang out here the more I wish I had waited longer to jump into the contracting world. It's too late to become an employee again for me but I can still learn from more experienced painters.

And you still didn't tell me how you would approach my particular situation The conventional top to bottom doesn't work for this. Has no one here ever sprayed any other way?
It just takes time, you will see, but do that, find a very good sprayer and just watch him for hour.
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Keep plugging away Gibberish. Every time you will get better. I have a 395 also. I use it mostly for fences, decks, cabinet doors, front doors, dental molding, etc. Up to now its been mostly repaints in occupied homes therefore no need for spraying on my part. I'm trying to get in with a property mgt. company and the prices for painting whole houses they pay -I will have to start spraying more to make decent money and this is a newer aspect for me. I feel comfortable enough spraying but I would never put a video up YET, so kudos to you!
Also, I have never used an extension wand, So please keep posted when/if you try it.
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Thank you. I have been spraying for 5 years now and being better than the other apartment painters in my area doesn't mean much around here

It's like jumping from a high school team to the NFL.

Anyway, I would love to spray up and down like "a pro" so I didn't have to kill my back. (I have an extension for ceilings.) But no one here is able to tell me a better way to spray these walls without protecting a mile of carpet every day. On a good day I'm painting 3 or 4 of these townhouses by myself.
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Also, I have never used an extension wand, So please keep posted when/if you try it.
Extensions even short ones are good because they save on your back and knees.
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Extensions even short ones are good because they save on your back and knees.
"Lightbulb" Same thing as never rolling w/out ext pole. even for 8'. Some things I just dont think about till the aha moment-- Geesh!! Been messing around with that sprayer for 6 years on and off. Time to make it go to work and not keep it as some kind of paint-shrine!!!!!

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Gibberish45 the biggest thing I see is your not getting 50% over lap on your passes.

Idaho painters on U tube has a few videos that are pretty good. His 50% over lap is very good..

Your 395 sounds like its working harder than it should.

Were you using a 517 or 617 in that video?

I am interested in what kind of paint you were using and what filters you had in the pump and gun.

Can you let us know? Thank You. Rob
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Thank you. I have been spraying for 5 years now and being better than the other apartment painters in my area doesn't mean much around here

It's like jumping from a high school team to the NFL.

Anyway, I would love to spray up and down like "a pro" so I didn't have to kill my back. (I have an extension for ceilings.) But no one here is able to tell me a better way to spray these walls without protecting a mile of carpet every day. On a good day I'm painting 3 or 4 of these townhouses by myself.
What about the base? Is it wall paint as well?
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What about the base? Is it wall paint as well?

Yup.

Rob, I'm spraying provantage flat it's a Porter product and it's dirt cheap. The filters are standard Graco replacements for a 395, not off brand or anything. Not sure what you're asking but if I recall the gun filter is a 60 mesh (?) Anyway I'm sure they're clogged to hell but I wasn't spraying today. Tomorrow I'll clean it out.
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When I did apartments I had a helper we used 2 pumps.

The property management company would change out the carpet and vinyl floors.

My helper would spackle and sand walls, doors and jambs. Cut in windows and shower tubs and mask door knobs.

I would spray flat on everything ceilings, walls doors and jambs.

When the flat dried we would sand kitchen, bathrooms and doors and jambs.

Then I would spray enamel on kitchens, bathrooms, doors and jambs.

I would shoot 2 apartments in flat then 2
apartments in enamel.

Our best "hack day" was 8 units. It was a section 8 HUD. So I can say we were hacking it.

We would clean up the pumps then go back and pull masking cut in the flat where it was over sprayed in enamel.

The only thing I masked was door knobs.
I used a lot of cardboard shields. You can get real creative with cardboard when all your masking is door knobs.

Gibberish45 getting 3-4 units is great for 1 band. I hope it's worth all your hard work.
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WOW! I can't believe you're spraying walls and not covering the carpet!! That's unreal man. I could NEVER do that and feel good about the job. I mean you are getting PAINT on the carpet! There is NO WAY that you aren't! And what about getting wall paint on the ceiling?? and windows and doors?? Couldn't you at least throw a runner down! Look I am not putting you down man, but Jesus that's just something I couldn't live with even for that low amount of money.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way but what you're doing just blows my mind dude. Unbelievable!
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