Solvent Disposal - Page 2 - Paint Talk

**daArch** · 09-26-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RCP

I believe the comment about dumping solvents in a hole was in jest.

yes Chris, it was most prolly in jest - but as we know all humor is based on fact.

Who here would be naive enough to say that NO SOLVENTS are being poured into the ground or down the drain somewhere in the USA. Either by a "pro" or a DIY'er.

We do need to take what we all know about safe disposal and spread it around.

BTW, I am still waiting to hear about those resins that a few of us tested a year ago last April for DM Neoresins up in Wilmington MA. After seeing those waterbornes, I am convinced that waterbornes such as these will perform BETTER than the oils - especially the post VOC castrated oils.

I have been anti "safe paint" since they started phasing out lead because the substitutes have never proved themselves to be as durable. (what's the sense of repainting every three years with "safe" paint, when the old stuff would last eight years ?). but I gotta say technology is finally catching up and we are beginning to see viable alternatives.

johnpaint · 09-27-2009, 11:47 PM

Arch: The new Water base DTM paints are blowing my mind at how much better they are than they use to be. If you get a chance buy you a quart and try them out. They are my newest, favorite paint. I even use them on wood trim where I want a faster drying,harder setting paint. You can recoat them severial times in a day without any delay of dry time.

**daArch** · 09-28-2009, 05:22 PM

Thanks John,

Would a DTM be good on aluminum shutters that have faded from black to white? Or are they just for ferrous metals?

Induspray · 12-22-2009, 03:10 PM

We pour old solvents into a 45 gallon drum. After a couple months we can pump out the top 80% of the solvents as the paint and crap that was in the solvent has setttled to the bottom of the drum. Every couple of years we bring in a waste disposal company who pumps out the garbage solvents and also pumps out any junk paint we have not been able to use which ends up being 200 to 300 gallons worth of crazy colors.

I remember years ago thinking I could use odd mistints etc to prime bare block walls as a cost saving measure, what a mistake. It took two coats to cover and the workers were ticked at me.

I still know contractors that dump the solvents in their fields or burn it, neither is too environmentally friendly.

As a sort of solvent related story. A friend of mine , a small residential builder found a piece of property that he wanted to build 80 townhouses on. During his due dilligence phase they discovered the land was heavily contaminated with solvents. From 1950 to 1982 the site had been a paint manufacturering facility before it went out of business. He was able to find the original owners who told him they constantly took 45 gallon drums of bad solvents out back and dumped them in a ditch. My friend then checked the condition of the land around the property and found the solvents had migragated south. At the south side of the property it was bordered by a church and graveyard which was found to be saturated with solvent, in fact you could even notice a slight smell of solvent in the air. My friend approached the church and told them of the problem and said they would have to dig up the graveyard to clean up the contamination . No way said the church, you cannot do that, they aggreed to sign off that they would not hold the new owners responsible for the contamination. My friend then approached the existing owners of the property and gave them the environmental report showing them the extent of the contamination but didnt tell them that they church had signed away their rights, he was able to have the price discounted by around $3,000,000 for the expected cleanup cost of the industrial land and the church lands.

Induspray · 01-27-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wpnpix

Our city landfills have a few saturdays a year set aside for hazardous waste disposal. Paint, chemicals, etc. can be taken on those days.

Usually they only accept 5 to 10 gallons of solvent or paint.

Metro M & L · 01-30-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Induspray

We pour old solvents into a 45 gallon drum. After a couple months we can pump out the top 80% of the solvents as the paint and crap that was in the solvent has setttled to the bottom of the drum. Every couple of years we bring in a waste disposal company who pumps out the garbage solvents and also pumps out any junk paint we have not been able to use which ends up being 200 to 300 gallons worth of crazy colors.

I remember years ago thinking I could use odd mistints etc to prime bare block walls as a cost saving measure, what a mistake. It took two coats to cover and the workers were ticked at me.

I still know contractors that dump the solvents in their fields or burn it, neither is too environmentally friendly.

As a sort of solvent related story. A friend of mine , a small residential builder found a piece of property that he wanted to build 80 townhouses on. During his due dilligence phase they discovered the land was heavily contaminated with solvents. From 1950 to 1982 the site had been a paint manufacturering facility before it went out of business. He was able to find the original owners who told him they constantly took 45 gallon drums of bad solvents out back and dumped them in a ditch. My friend then checked the condition of the land around the property and found the solvents had migragated south. At the south side of the property it was bordered by a church and graveyard which was found to be saturated with solvent, in fact you could even notice a slight smell of solvent in the air. My friend approached the church and told them of the problem and said they would have to dig up the graveyard to clean up the contamination . No way said the church, you cannot do that, they aggreed to sign off that they would not hold the new owners responsible for the contamination. My friend then approached the existing owners of the property and gave them the environmental report showing them the extent of the contamination but didnt tell them that they church had signed away their rights, he was able to have the price discounted by around $3,000,000 for the expected cleanup cost of the industrial land and the church lands.

So then he didn't do any clean up at all and built the townhomes anyway. Awesome. No wonder autism rates are up.

i, painter · 03-14-2010, 01:24 AM

I do what some of you are doing: storing old solvents until they settle, reusing what I can. When the solvents are beyond use, I have a friend that takes it to use in his waste oil furnace to heat his garage in the winter. Not really sure exactly how green the furnace bit is, but it's being used up and not getting dumped somewhere.

Also, for leftover or extra paints I can't use on other jobs (oil or latex) I donate them to the Habitat ReStore.

Induspray · 03-14-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Metro M & L

So then he didn't do any clean up at all and built the townhomes anyway. Awesome. No wonder autism rates are up.

He cleaned up the land that he owned but was not responsible for cleaning up the church land as they did not want him to "dig up the graveyard"