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04-06-2008, 07:02 PM
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04-06-2008, 07:09 PM
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As true as it is, it really sounds like a very bitter contractor wrote it. Most consumers won't give it the time of day.
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04-06-2008, 07:11 PM
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Only in a perfect world!
This was a very good article. I hope it reaches every homeowner in america
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04-06-2008, 07:31 PM
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"A good rule of thumb for estimates is that the labor will be double the amount of materials. A smaller job will be more for labor. "
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04-06-2008, 07:37 PM
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I dont know about you all, but my numbers indicate way more than a 2:1 ratio. I guess we dont spill enough paint...
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04-06-2008, 08:01 PM
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You know - this article gave me a great idea - I am no longer going to give free estimates from now on unless the homeowner show that they are serious. And I have an idea as to how to go about doing this....
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04-06-2008, 08:08 PM
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I didn't read the article, but if it says that labor will be twice materials, the author is either insane or broke (maybe both).
If this were true, a 2 gallon job (typical bedroom wall job using $20 paint) would be $120. The only people doing work like that are the $99 a room guys, or people who simply don't know any better.
My material costs are typically less than 10% of the price I charge. I'd like to find that author and slap him upside the head with a good dose of reality.
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04-06-2008, 08:18 PM
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"A good rule of thumb for estimates is that the labor will be double the amount of materials. A smaller job will be more for labor. "
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I read that also was thought that was off a bit!
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04-06-2008, 08:32 PM
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"A good rule of thumb for estimates is that the labor will be double the amount of materials. A smaller job will be more for labor. "
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I would go out of business the next day. For example I am completing a job that paints ran about $300.00 My net will be over $4000.00. This was for two large areas both with over 1200 sq feet of room space.
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04-06-2008, 08:32 PM
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You know - this article gave me a great idea - I am no longer going to give free estimates from now on unless the homeowner show that they are serious. And I have an idea as to how to go about doing this....
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Whats your idea?
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04-06-2008, 08:36 PM
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the author is either insane or broke (maybe both).
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This was my thought as a read the article. I also agree with Homey, this was a bitter contractor who is out of business.
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04-06-2008, 08:45 PM
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I would go out of business the next day. For example I am completing a job that paints ran about $300.00 My net will be over $4000.00. This was for two large areas both with over 1200 sq feet of room space.
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Its the chicken and the egg...the flip side is if you work from your actual labor costs and then bump materials up to half of that (instead of the approx 10% as mentioned above), we would all be making a killing on materials. It wouldnt surprise me if there are those who would think this was a good idea.
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04-06-2008, 10:03 PM
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I also didn't like that materials estimate either. It's the one thing that shows how little the author knows about what he is talking about.
Maybe I'll email him and set him straight.
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04-10-2008, 06:26 AM
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The company was built on hard work, trust, dedication, reliability and honesty. That’s the reason why we have such a long list of customers that keep coming back to us. We are here to provide top notch work for years to come. We have a personalized service.
My name is Massimo Giorgio, and as the owner of Executive Touch Painters, I will personally come out to see you… not a sales person. Our slogan is “You get what you pay for.” Our prices are competitive and we use the top of the line paints from any manufacturer (Benjamin Moore, Para, Sherwin Williams, Manor Hall, etc…) All our work comes with two to five year warranties, which is by far the best warranty on the market to date. We are confident that our work is done in the most professional manner. All specifications are met by manufacturers so that your material paint has a valid warranty.
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04-10-2008, 07:27 AM
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04-10-2008, 10:19 PM
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The company was built on hard work, trust, dedication, reliability and honesty. That’s the reason why we have such a long list of customers that keep coming back to us. We are here to provide top notch work for years to come. We have a personalized service.
My name is Massimo Giorgio, and as the owner of Executive Touch Painters, I will personally come out to see you… not a sales person. Our slogan is “You get what you pay for.” Our prices are competitive and we use the top of the line paints from any manufacturer (Benjamin Moore, Para, Sherwin Williams, Manor Hall, etc…) All our work comes with two to five year warranties, which is by far the best warranty on the market to date. We are confident that our work is done in the most professional manner. All specifications are met by manufacturers so that your material paint has a valid warranty.
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 ......wow ...look a REAL painting company ....could you start a thread and show us "How to Run a Real Company" ...
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04-10-2008, 11:10 PM
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Alright, ya lost me...... I posted an article someone wrote about 3 free estimates...... I don't get the response Mike, am I just tired or am I missing something?
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04-10-2008, 11:14 PM
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I think Mikey is a One Hit Wonder.
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04-11-2008, 12:07 AM
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it just really seemed amateur the way the article was written even though it made sense....that is a terrible rule of thumb and it kind of made the guy and his article lose credibility in my mind
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04-11-2008, 08:34 AM
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I couldn't agree with you more.
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