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Old 11-20-2016, 09:54 PM   #21
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I make a ton more money doing residential than any PM work I ever did:
PM work is 99 percent low bid bottom barrel work why most franchise painting PC"s here own the accounts. And I've been doing this a long long time. Maybe in other areas it pays more but not here. And not n any states we have done work in which is quite a few on east coast. Let me put it to you this way.

I recently gave a price to do some painting for a so called high end PM firm in the city ( Boston). Which is supposed to pay more. I know the PM manager had a relationship with him for 25 years. My price was $15,675.00. Two other bidders the winning bid was $10,500 nice job to wish I got it but not gonna just work to keep guys busy. Ok rant over.

One way you could try is buy a list of facility managers and market to them. Also , off hour painting at medical buildings is a niche that pays better but not great .

Also depends on what guys think is good money 99 percent here haven't a clue what there break even is let alone how much they need to charge.

As for painters academy he does know his stuff on marketing and he's vigilant.
I personally like his ideas and plan of attack. Try it out for a year hell its only money

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I make a ton more money doing residential than any PM work I ever did:
PM work is 99 percent low bid bottom barrel work why most franchise painting PC"s here own the accounts. And I've been doing this a long long time. Maybe in other areas it pays more but not here. And not n any states we have done work in which is quite a few on east coast. Let me put it to you this way.

I recently gave a price to do some painting for a so called high end PM firm in the city ( Boston). Which is supposed to pay more. I know the PM manager had a relationship with him for 25 years. My price was $15,675.00. Two other bidders the winning bid was $10,500 nice job to wish I got it but not gonna just work to keep guys busy. Ok rant over.

One way you could try is buy a list of facility managers and market to them. Also , off hour painting at medical buildings is a niche that pays better but not great .

Also depends on what guys think is good money 99 percent here haven't a clue what there break even is let alone how much they need to charge.

As for painters academy he does know his stuff on marketing and he's vigilant.
I personally like his ideas and plan of attack. Try it out for a year hell its only money
Management companies control the work that TPC claims are great jobs for a painting contractor to land. What ideas do you like specifically? He says go after 5K sq ft buildings..Well, P Mng't companies own that chit for the most part.

Im not sure where the big dollars are if you have to market to PM companies.
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I make a ton more money doing residential than any PM work I ever did:
PM work is 99 percent low bid bottom barrel work why most franchise painting PC"s here own the accounts. And I've been doing this a long long time. Maybe in other areas it pays more but not here. And not n any states we have done work in which is quite a few on east coast. Let me put it to you this way.

I recently gave a price to do some painting for a so called high end PM firm in the city ( Boston). Which is supposed to pay more. I know the PM manager had a relationship with him for 25 years. My price was $15,675.00. Two other bidders the winning bid was $10,500 nice job to wish I got it but not gonna just work to keep guys busy. Ok rant over.

One way you could try is buy a list of facility managers and market to them. Also , off hour painting at medical buildings is a niche that pays better but not great .

Also depends on what guys think is good money 99 percent here haven't a clue what there break even is let alone how much they need to charge.

As for painters academy he does know his stuff on marketing and he's vigilant.
I personally like his ideas and plan of attack. Try it out for a year hell its only money
Management companies control the work that TPC claims are great jobs for a painting contractor to land. What ideas do you like specifically? He says go after 5K sq ft buildings..Well, P Mng't companies own that chit for the most part.

Im not sure where the big dollars are if you have to market to PM companies.
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Management companies control the work that TPC claims are great jobs for a painting contractor to land. What ideas do you like specifically? He says go after 5K sq ft buildings..Well, P Mng't companies own that chit for the most part.

Im not sure where the big dollars are if you have to market to PM companies.
I believe he's also talking about finding the FM manager and selling them your services direct. I have had some very good accounts over the years with PM company's but far and few between who pay well and want quality professional work.
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