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madducks 06-21-2009 04:13 AM

Fiberglass? door from Lowes Jeld-Wen Reliabilt paint with what?
 
My attorney, who has done favors for me, just purchased a new front door from Lowe's. It's supposedly a fiberglass door - a Jeld-Wen Reliabilt that was milled by ABS. He wants me to paint it.

It is not like any of the Thermatru Smooth Star doors that I'm used to painting. It's very glossy, shiny and smooth. It doesn't even look like fiberglass, but rather like a plastic or a vinyl.

I went to Lowe's to find out about it from them. They didn't know anything and could not help me at all. Experts.

Has anyone ever encountered one of these doors before?

Normally I lightly sand and then paint with BM's Metal Wood Enamel. But this door is scarry looking being so shiny and this is my attorney...

Thanks.

TooledUp 06-21-2009 05:45 AM

What you're describing sounds like an aluminium door which is overcoated with upvc. Or it could just be a upvc door and the guy is mistaken about what he has been sold..?

chrisn 06-21-2009 07:28 AM

Consult the manufacturer, the only way to CYA;)

ParagonVA 06-21-2009 09:58 AM

sounds like a maintenance-free door, and not meant for painting? Is the customer trying to match the other trim? I'm sure BIN will stick to it :whistling2:

madducks 06-21-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisn (Post 77901)
Consult the manufacturer, the only way to CYA;)

I'm trying to consult the manufacturer, but getting no where.... I guess since Jeld-Wen makes it for Lowe's, Jeld-Wen doesn't support it??? I find nothing on the website and I'm now trying to get a phone number to call on Monday.

Thanks

madducks 06-21-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TooledUp (Post 77898)
What you're describing sounds like an aluminium door which is overcoated with upvc. Or it could just be a upvc door and the guy is mistaken about what he has been sold..?

Mistaken might be the prevailing word here considering the guy I spoke with at Lowes. When he couldn't find any information on the door, he told me to wipe it down with paint thinner and then paint it with an exterior latex....

So, if it is a upvc coating or laminate, can you paint that and if so with what?

I sort of just want to tell my attorney to take the door back and let me get him a good Therma-Tru Smooth Star door....

timhag 06-21-2009 01:19 PM

Tell him to hire someone who knows what they're doing. I think that your best bet.:yes:

madducks 06-21-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ParagonVA (Post 77910)
sounds like a maintenance-free door, and not meant for painting? Is the customer trying to match the other trim? I'm sure BIN will stick to it :whistling2:

I'm not familiar with acronyms here (or how to spell it even). What is BIN?

timhag 06-21-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by madducks (Post 77940)
. What is BIN?

Like I said, tell him to hire someone who knows what they re doing!

madducks 06-21-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timhag (Post 77939)
Tell him to hire someone who knows what they're doing. I think that your best bet.:yes:

Thank you. I usually do most of our interior trim work and have for years. I have another quality, experienced painter that I use when we have too many projects goings at once for the trim, windows and doors.

He came and looked at the door and has never seen one like it either. Then we started calling around to other local painters and nobody has ever had to paint such a door.

I think that neither of us have ever seen such a door because it is not at all what we usually use. It's from Lowe's and a "cheap" version of something. My guess is that the spec builders might use them and don't paint them.

Since your advice to hire someone who knows what they are doing and nothing else. I am also assuming that you proably don't have a clue either how to prep and paint this door. So, maybe you would fall into the category of NOT knowing what you are doing.

Thanks for being so helpful.

timhag 06-21-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by madducks (Post 77948)

Since your advice to hire someone who knows what they are doing and nothing else. I am also assuming that you proably don't have a clue either how to prep and paint this door. So, maybe you would fall into the category of NOT knowing what you are doing.

Thanks for being so helpful.

Okay Mr. builder! Hi! my name is madducks I am builder but have been in the coating business for 99 years and don't know what BIN is! Kiss my ass, i wouldn't help you if you were the last of the Mohicans.

madducks 06-21-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by timhag (Post 77949)
Okay Mr. builder! Hi! my name is madducks I am builder but have been in the coating business for 99 years and don't know what BIN is! Kiss my ass, i wouldn't help you if you were the last of the Mohicans.

Thanks again for being so friendly and helpful. And I finally realized that BIN is the Zinsser product. I'm sorry my brain was being so dense.

Workaholic 06-21-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by madducks (Post 77952)
Thanks again for being so friendly and helpful. And I finally realized that BIN is the Zinsser product. I'm sorry my brain was being so dense.

You need a faster internet connection 30 minutes to google BIN lol

Go with manufacture specs

MissChaos 10-30-2009 05:54 AM

Jeld-Wen Door
 
This post is pretty old - and I'm not sure if you've figured your problem out or not... BUT... I work for Jeld-Wen... The fiberglass doors do look kind of odd and they are very smooth and glossy... NOW - Jeld-Wen requires that you pain the door or the door will not be covered by it's warrenty.. BUT my general manager currently went to Canada and discovered that most of our customers DO NOT paint there doors... I would recommend it though.

robert hosey 11-10-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madducks (Post 77896)
My attorney, who has done favors for me, just purchased a new front door from Lowe's. It's supposedly a fiberglass door - a Jeld-Wen Reliabilt that was milled by ABS. He wants me to paint it.

It is not like any of the Thermatru Smooth Star doors that I'm used to painting. It's very glossy, shiny and smooth. It doesn't even look like fiberglass, but rather like a plastic or a vinyl.

I went to Lowe's to find out about it from them. They didn't know anything and could not help me at all. Experts.

Has anyone ever encountered one of these doors before?

Normally I lightly sand and then paint with BM's Metal Wood Enamel. But this door is scarry looking being so shiny and this is my attorney...

Thanks.

i would scuff it good then use XIM 400


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