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Old 02-12-2017, 03:57 PM   #1
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Got my hands on a new low pressure fine finish tip (310) Friday so going to give it a try today in spraying an interior door. Will let you know what I think later.
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Had pressure set to about half of what I normally use when using a fine finish 310 tip and laid down a nice even coat.

I do think this will allow for easier on site spaying of trim and doors due to the lower pressure not creating as much overspray fog in the air. The amount of masking necessary will be more like using an HVLP on site compared to a typical airless experience.
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I wonder how much lower I can go with these on my AAA. Currently I spray at around 900psi with the normal FF tip. Gotta get my hands on these.

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Mine cost me $36 through my SW store. Not sure what regular retail is.
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Had pressure set to about half of what I normally use when using a fine finish 310 tip and laid down a nice even coat.

I do think this will allow for easier on site spaying of trim and doors due to the lower pressure not creating as much overspray fog in the air. The amount of masking necessary will be more like using an HVLP on site compared to a typical airless experience.
What product did you spray and what sprayer, if you don't mind?
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I was spraying Pro-Classic Acrylic enamel with some XIM latex extender added. Not my favorite product to spray these days, not even close really, but there was some left over from some trim work done about two years ago so didn't make sense getting something new for just one door. Have to guess this tip will work like a breeze when spraying Pro-Industrial Multi-Surface Acrylic or Kelly Moore's Dura-Poxi - my normal go to enamels.

Used a 395 airless.
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Tried our FFLP tip today and it dripped like crazy out of the housing. Luckily today Dulux had a free lunch for valentine's day and a Graco rep was there showing off the tips. We told him about our problem and it turns out that you have to change the seat that comes with the tip or else it will leak. I'll give you guys another update when I try it out again.
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Tried our FFLP tip today and it dripped like crazy out of the housing. Luckily today Dulux had a free lunch for valentine's day and a Graco rep was there showing off the tips. We told him about our problem and it turns out that you have to change the seat that comes with the tip or else it will leak. I'll give you guys another update when I try it out again.
Didn't get any dripping but there was a bit more spitting than I'm used to. Didn't affect the end look of the door but was a bit frustrating. I wrote it off to maybe the product and messing around with the pressure to see different effects.
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Not much of a fan of these types of pics because they really don't show all that much (but it looks great in real life) - just posting to show that the results with the new tip are consistent to what I would expect to get with a regular fine finish 310. Just less fogging, presssure issues, and overspray with the new one.

Door was raw birch primed with a coat of SW exterior oil base primer, sanded with 320, and two coats of Pro-Classic Acrylic Satin Enamel thinned with some XIM latex extender. Again, not my go to top coat enamel these days but it came out fine nevertheless. Can see some wood grain, but hey, it's a real wood door.
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I have had bad luck with 310 leaking. I might have to try a 410.

Looks good Dan.
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I was looking at those today. Need to give them a try
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I need some of these tips I have a nice job to give them a good run.

Door looks good.
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I have had bad luck with 310 leaking. I might have to try a 410.

Looks good Dan.


Gracobucks said above that if you don't put the seat that comes with the fflp tip in housing that it will leak. I'm guessing that's probably your issue.


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Gracobucks said above that if you don't put the seat that comes with the fflp tip in housing that it will leak. I'm guessing that's probably your issue.


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Mentioned that to another guy in town that is also testing the new tip. He said he didn't replace the seat and had no issues with it dripping. Go figure.
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I did not use the seal that came with the FFLP tip either. Gun already had one in and stuck with it.
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Gracobucks said above that if you don't put the seat that comes with the fflp tip in housing that it will leak. I'm guessing that's probably your issue.


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No. It was only 310's. 210's and 410's will not leak.
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I'm getting ready to prime a bunch of newly installed MDF trim and pine jambs with PPG Seal Grip, so I picked up a 310 today and am wondering how much I should thin it, if at all. Is it even worth spraying the primer through the FF tip when it's going to be sanded?
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I'm getting ready to prime a bunch of newly installed MDF trim and pine jambs with PPG Seal Grip, so I picked up a 310 today and am wondering how much I should thin it, if at all. Is it even worth spraying the primer through the FF tip when it's going to be sanded?
Good point. I likely wouldn't do it intentionally, but if I had a new FFLP tip in place and ready to go I would probably just use it anyway.

Just to be clear, you got one of the new FF "LP" 310 tips - right? Not a regular FF310?
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Correct. Local paint store owner stocked them after I told him some things people here had said, so I felt obligated to buy one.

E: Thoughts on thinning the primer? I think I'll test drive with that before topcoating.

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Correct. Local paint store owner stocked them after I told him some things people here had said, so I felt obligated to buy one.

E: Thoughts on thinning the primer? I think I'll test drive with that before topcoating.
I don't since I don't care about any leveling and like you said, it's going to be sanded anyway. Plus, an airless can push through anything you want it to.
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