PressurePros

ATO on cedar... ouch. Typically turns black within a year.

I hope not, the project looks fantastic.

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NEPS.US

There are 5 year old houses at this site that have not turned black.

It was not my first choice but I'm mot an architect.

PressurePros

5 years ago the formula was different. I am almost certain Cabot strongly recommends against using the ATO on cedar. Their techs will give you a different answer every day. A friend of mine in the deck industry is eating $100,000 in labor over the other junk product they make, SPF.

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NEPS.US

I've pleaded my case for a change in product Ken but the guy with the stamp called for ATO. It is the builders liability and warranty, not mine. The maintenance company coats these things every three years.

vermontpainter

SPF was one of the worst ideas ever, totally appealing to what people wish was possible.

Ato has been marketed pretty slick but I think it doesn't live up to the hype.
I've seen it fail but not by turning black. I've seen it flake and fail on decks but haven't seen it's performance on siding much. Sometimes we do have to apply what is specified even when the specifier doesn't know much.

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Scott

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PressurePros

I totally understand that you had no choice. My chagrin is more with the Cabot's company. I have gone head to head with them and was listed in a lawsuit by a homeowner that insisted on using the SPF. Cabot's stance was that I didn't prep right. Luckily at the time i was in business long enough to not trust any acrylic and had the homeowner sign off. Cabot's tried to throw me under the bus for their crap product by saying I didn't sand the deck. I asked where in their literature or on the can it said sanding was mandatory and was subsequently dropped from the case.

I did a monster cedar deck in ATO four years ago and everywhere the sun hit it, it turned dark, almost black. More back and forth and blaming and Cabot's offered me product replacement. I ate a $3500 restrip and stain and lost the confidence of the customer. Cabot's finally admitted their ATO had terrible results in the lab on cedar.

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plainpainter

I did a deck strip last fall for a lady in Newburyport, home of Cabot's. The two guys that did her deck were workers at Cabot's and 'moonlighted' as a deck staining company using Cabot's product. They stained her pressure treated deck with the SPF - and did a 'maintenance' coat right over it a year later because it was peeling badly. It was utter garbage. Perhaps the worst strip I've ever experienced. Man was she pissed at those guys - she told me they since have gone bellyup and one of them now works at the laundromat. LOL. I drove by Cabot's, and thought about dumping a used can of A.C. on their front walk, with a note, this is what REAL stain is suppose to be like.

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VanDamme

I've seen that stuff flying out of the paint store this Summer