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Old 10-30-2016, 06:07 AM   #41
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Interesting. I use Aura all the time and never have any of these issues.. It's great if your doing an extreme color change as it covers like crazy and will most definitely cover anything in 2 coats. Regal is a great runner up. Your not suppose to put this stuff on as thick as you can. Most paints have a recommended thickness application or indeed it will sag.
I also never thin any of my products. But if you do, make sure you thin the whole batch, or you could encounter "picture framing".
I also cringe when ever people say they don't use drop sheets. If your painting a whole room. It takes literally 2 minutes to put down dops. Then your ready to go for ceilings walls, trims with no worries. And no rag? C'mon. Clean hands make clean work.
Clients also like to see that your using care. On an occupied repaint, dropping floors and furniture should be incorporated into the price..Repeat business is much more important than "get it done as fast as possible"! That's my 2 cents.
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Use BM regal select instead. I only ever use aura on front doors out of a Qt.
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what do you bm guys use to prime metal doors and frames? how many coats to get to a true white on a metal door?
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what do you bm guys use to prime metal doors and frames? how many coats to get to a true white on a metal door?
We use Behr.straight outta the can. Excellent 1 coat coverage. Semi gloss.try it, you'll like it.
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We use Behr.straight outta the can. Excellent 1 coat coverage. Semi gloss.try it, you'll like it.
i cant tell when you guys are serious anymore
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i cant tell when you guys are serious anymore
We're never serious, unless it's about or love for Behr
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If I had just put down new carpet in my house, you'd bet your a55 I'd expect ANY painter to put a drop cloth over it! Think about it that way.

And I wouldn't care if he was using Marquee and cutting in with a Q-tip.
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We use Behr.straight outta the can. Excellent 1 coat coverage. Semi gloss.try it, you'll like it.
Marquee. No primer needed. Just brush it straight out of the can. Perfectly smooth, rust resistant finish.
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We're never serious, unless it's about or love for Behr
Watch out! Here come the behr lovers!
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Just to make sure what you are saying , are you adding 3/4 quart per gallon or 3/4 of a cup per gallon? 3/4 quart is 24oz of water per gallon. 3/4 cup would be 6oz which seems more reasonable.




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I find that adding 3/4 quart of warm water/gallon helps tremendously with Aura. This is especially helpful when rolling high stairwells. It just loosens up the paint and it rolls like butter. For cutting I like to add BM extender instead of water.

For BEN I add about 1/2 gallon of extender per 5 gallon pail. Extender is also cheaper than a gallon of Ben or Aura.

For some reason I've never had a problem with Aura Bath & Spa. It's fantastic.

Hope this helps.
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Well I went back to fix that green wall. I think I'm done with aura. It's still doing the same thing. I purchased this gallon from a different paint shop just to make sure it wasn't old stock or something .

The color is natucket gray (hc111). It's in their historic color section.

Both stores gave me it in a 2x base.
The tint formulas are a bit different.

New store
528-2x
Y3 2x 31.00
S1 1x 17.00
W1 2x 26.00
G1 0x 1.00

Old store
522-2x
Y3 3x 25.00
S1 1x 25.00
W1 2x 26.00
G1 0x 1.50

I took my ro and sanded the walls dead flat.
Attached are three examples of the same wal. Two are after about 10-15minutes drying and the last one after about 30minutes. The switch was cut in with a really dry mini wooster and the main wall body with a 9". Once again both are a 3/8" pro dooz FTP.

I couldn't roll the wall any lighter without straight dry rolling with no coverage. Only thinned it with a splash of water in the tray to loosen it up like suggested. Mixed it thoroughly before loading the rollers.


How does the ultraspec low sheen compare to the aura matte in terms dry film appearance. If not does the regal select behave like aura in the matte finish.

If neither of the above I'm going to pick up a gallon of duration from SW or a gallon of behr eggshell.....haha

Apply some cheaper "lower grade" paint that works and just chalk this whole thing up as a learning experience. Likely it's only a small hallway.
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Well I went back to fix that green wall. I think I'm done with aura. It's still doing the same thing. I purchased this gallon from a different paint shop just to make sure it wasn't old stock or something .

The color is natucket gray (hc111). It's in their historic color section.

Both stores gave me it in a 2x base.
The tint formulas are a bit different.

New store
528-2x
Y3 2x 31.00
S1 1x 17.00
W1 2x 26.00
G1 0x 1.00

Old store
522-2x
Y3 3x 25.00
S1 1x 25.00
W1 2x 26.00
G1 0x 1.50

I took my ro and sanded the walls dead flat.
Attached are two examples of the same wall after about 10-15minutes drying. One close to a switch cut in with a mini wooster and one in the center with a 9". Once again both are a 3/8" pro dooz FTP.

I couldn't roll the wall any lighter without straight dry rolling with no coverage. Only thinned it with a splash of water in the tray to loosen it up like suggested. Mixed it thoroughly before loading the rollers.


How does the ultraspec low sheen compare to the aura matte in terms dry film appearance. If not does the regal select behave like aura in the matte finish.

If neither of the above I'm going to pick up duration from SW and apply that and just chalk this whole thing up as a learning experience. Likely it's only a small hallway.
Yup, looks like the aura finish I get too.
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Yup, looks like the aura finish I get too.
For real? Or just mocking me? Hard to tell on this site.
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For real? Or just mocking me? Hard to tell on this site.
I've never liked the finish I get with aura. Regal is great, advanced is good, the other are good, aura is horrible. My opinion
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Well I went back to fix that green wall. I think I'm done with aura. It's still doing the same thing. I purchased this gallon from a different paint shop just to make sure it wasn't old stock or something .



The color is natucket gray (hc111). It's in their historic color section.



Both stores gave me it in a 2x base.

The tint formulas are a bit different.



New store

528-2x

Y3 2x 31.00

S1 1x 17.00

W1 2x 26.00

G1 0x 1.00



Old store

522-2x

Y3 3x 25.00

S1 1x 25.00

W1 2x 26.00

G1 0x 1.50



I took my ro and sanded the walls dead flat.

Attached are three examples of the same wal. Two are after about 10-15minutes drying and the last one after about 30minutes. The switch was cut in with a really dry mini wooster and the main wall body with a 9". Once again both are a 3/8" pro dooz FTP.



I couldn't roll the wall any lighter without straight dry rolling with no coverage. Only thinned it with a splash of water in the tray to loosen it up like suggested. Mixed it thoroughly before loading the rollers.





How does the ultraspec low sheen compare to the aura matte in terms dry film appearance. If not does the regal select behave like aura in the matte finish.



If neither of the above I'm going to pick up a gallon of duration from SW or a gallon of behr eggshell.....haha



Apply some cheaper "lower grade" paint that works and just chalk this whole thing up as a learning experience. Likely it's only a small hallway.


Hmmm, I don't know dude. The first wall I rolled with Aura looked like a$$ too. Had to sand it down and try again. Now that I've gotten used to it though, I like it for several reasons. It is different for sure.

Can't find any close up pics right off, but I really like the finish quality.


Different strokes I guess. The few times I've used Behr it looked similar to your pics. Drove me nuts with the runs/sags. I never put in the effort to figure it out.

And no, Regal doesn't behave quite like Aura. Aura is kinda unique IME.


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@sayn3ver I'd recommend switching to regal select. It's very user friends and has similar traits to most typical wall paints.

Don't use Ultra Spec. I'm guessing that your client is expecting a top shelf paint since Aura was originally spec'd.






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Well I went back to fix that green wall. I think I'm done with aura. It's still doing the same thing. I purchased this gallon from a different paint shop just to make sure it wasn't old stock or something .

The color is natucket gray (hc111). It's in their historic color section.

Both stores gave me it in a 2x base.
The tint formulas are a bit different.

New store
528-2x
Y3 2x 31.00
S1 1x 17.00
W1 2x 26.00
G1 0x 1.00

Old store
522-2x
Y3 3x 25.00
S1 1x 25.00
W1 2x 26.00
G1 0x 1.50

I took my ro and sanded the walls dead flat.
Attached are three examples of the same wal. Two are after about 10-15minutes drying and the last one after about 30minutes. The switch was cut in with a really dry mini wooster and the main wall body with a 9". Once again both are a 3/8" pro dooz FTP.

I couldn't roll the wall any lighter without straight dry rolling with no coverage. Only thinned it with a splash of water in the tray to loosen it up like suggested. Mixed it thoroughly before loading the rollers.


How does the ultraspec low sheen compare to the aura matte in terms dry film appearance. If not does the regal select behave like aura in the matte finish.

If neither of the above I'm going to pick up a gallon of duration from SW or a gallon of behr eggshell.....haha

Apply some cheaper "lower grade" paint that works and just chalk this whole thing up as a learning experience. Likely it's only a small hallway.
Aura 522 is matte
Aura 528 is semi gloss
Sounds like one of the cans got the semigloss formula
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i dont know why you hate the brush so much. you tape boys have this vendetta against it for some reason, i think some of you need to accept its a tough skill to master.

i dont roll without a drop, i cheat on a foot maybe on each end to save from a few drags but ill slow up on the roller in that case. im sure with the right sleeve and paint you could roll a wall without a drop with soft hands at a decent speed.

i could paint all day and be clean. theres no reason to drip paint,i barely keep rags on me. what are you going to do if you repaint frames in an occupied space? drop cloth the bottom of the frame? LOL too slow, you wont make money and youll look like a amateur doing it. no drop, no need for a rag, straight cutting talent.

anyone can pull the trigger dude, the machine does all the work but is a pain in the butt a lot of times. still tones of brush work, you act like sprayers just came out

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I like #2



uh...maybe I should rephrase that...
The second one
You last picture never showed up on my app. I've never gotten that, just the heavy orange peel look/texture
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