500,000 boardfeet - Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum > Professional Painters > Interior Wood Finishing


Like Tree27Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-14-2016, 06:38 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
cdpainting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 8,585
Rewards Points: 872
Thanks: 4,513
Thanked 4,496 Times in 2,832 Posts
View cdpainting's Photo Album My Photos
Default 500,000 boardfeet

We are about to start priming 500,000 lft of t&g ceiling boards. Prime both sides by brush and roller. Good thing this is t&m at our higher rates.
slinger58 and lilpaintchic like this.
cdpainting is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-14-2016, 07:09 AM   #2
King Dude
 
Rbriggs82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 5,564
Rewards Points: 166
Thanks: 4,656
Thanked 4,758 Times in 2,668 Posts
View Rbriggs82's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdpainting View Post
We are about to start priming 500,000 lft of t&g ceiling boards. Prime both sides by brush and roller. Good thing this is t&m at our higher rates.
Why aren't you spraying them?
journeymanPainter likes this.
Rbriggs82 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Rbriggs82 For This Useful Post:
RH (11-14-2016), Wildbill7145 (11-14-2016)
Old 11-14-2016, 10:30 AM   #3
Moderator
 
Gough's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Intermountain West
Posts: 10,539
Rewards Points: 840
Thanks: 11,620
Thanked 10,457 Times in 5,722 Posts
View Gough's Photo Album My Photos
Default

When we've been faced with 1/100 of that, without being able to spray them, I've contemplated alternatives. The main one being a serious of pressure-fed roller through which the boards are fed, followed by fixed brushes to remove the excess and eliminate the stipple.

At least that gave me something to think about while I was brushing and rolling....
__________________
“The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it.” – Henry David Thoreau
Gough is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 11-14-2016, 11:21 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Jmayspaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: East TN
Posts: 3,801
Rewards Points: 4
Thanks: 1,774
Thanked 3,580 Times in 1,805 Posts
View Jmayspaint's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rbriggs82 View Post
Why aren't you spraying them?


Guess you missed the "by the hour" part

If someone wants to pay a man to dig a ditch with a tooth pick, why not let them?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Jmayspaint is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Jmayspaint For This Useful Post:
Wildbill7145 (11-14-2016)
Old 11-14-2016, 11:34 AM   #5
Moderator
 
Wildbill7145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,033
Rewards Points: 944
Thanks: 3,503
Thanked 3,944 Times in 2,051 Posts
View Wildbill7145's Photo Album My Photos
Default

It is pretty daunting when you finish up prepainting all the walls, and your GC buddy starts hauling in 2 cords of poplar trim you've gotta start priming by hand. Set up the saw horses and drying racks and get ready for a few seriously boring days.
Wildbill7145 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 03:44 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
cdpainting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 8,585
Rewards Points: 872
Thanks: 4,513
Thanked 4,496 Times in 2,832 Posts
View cdpainting's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rbriggs82 View Post
Why aren't you spraying them?
The HO's want the brushed/rolled look. I told them we could do it faster with a sprayer. Sprayer is out anyways. Way to many carpenters all over the home with saws.

We were outside doing them today, we have the 3rd floor to use which is pretty wide open but not enough room to store all these. Plus lumping these up 3 stories then back down to the 1st floor is a bit much hourly or not. lol.
lilpaintchic likes this.
cdpainting is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 03:46 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
cdpainting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 8,585
Rewards Points: 872
Thanks: 4,513
Thanked 4,496 Times in 2,832 Posts
View cdpainting's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gough View Post
When we've been faced with 1/100 of that, without being able to spray them, I've contemplated alternatives. The main one being a serious of pressure-fed roller through which the boards are fed, followed by fixed brushes to remove the excess and eliminate the stipple.

At least that gave me something to think about while I was brushing and rolling....
I'm only thinking about having more drying racks built. The carpenters threw 2 racks together for us today but it's not enough. We can put 20 pieces on one rack.

Why did this seem like a great job the other day. lol. Easy, roll, brush stack. Ok stacking is an issue.
cdpainting is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 04:29 PM   #8
Moderator
 
Gough's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Intermountain West
Posts: 10,539
Rewards Points: 840
Thanks: 11,620
Thanked 10,457 Times in 5,722 Posts
View Gough's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdpainting View Post
I'm only thinking about having more drying racks built. The carpenters threw 2 racks together for us today but it's not enough. We can put 20 pieces on one rack.

Why did this seem like a great job the other day. lol. Easy, roll, brush stack. Ok stacking is an issue.
Sorry that I don't have a picture, but we knock ours together with 2 2x4s-8, 7 1x2s cut to 4-0, and a 1x2 for a brace. The 1x2s are sandwiched between the two 2xs, which serve as the uprights. The result looks like two combs, back to back. Add some scrap 2x4 for a base and pairs of these are joined with the extra 1x2. The resulting rack will hold 160+ pieces of 1x4 or about ~110 pieces of 1x6.
PRC likes this.
__________________
“The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it.” – Henry David Thoreau
Gough is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 06:20 PM   #9
PRC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,250
Rewards Points: 42
Thanks: 2,053
Thanked 916 Times in 533 Posts
View PRC's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gough View Post
Sorry that I don't have a picture, but we knock ours together with 2 2x4s-8, 7 1x2s cut to 4-0, and a 1x2 for a brace. The 1x2s are sandwiched between the two 2xs, which serve as the uprights. The result looks like two combs, back to back. Add some scrap 2x4 for a base and pairs of these are joined with the extra 1x2. The resulting rack will hold 160+ pieces of 1x4 or about ~110 pieces of 1x6.
Similar to this? But free standing and double sided?

These were mounted to the joists.
PRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 07:43 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Jmayspaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: East TN
Posts: 3,801
Rewards Points: 4
Thanks: 1,774
Thanked 3,580 Times in 1,805 Posts
View Jmayspaint's Photo Album My Photos
Default

500k linear is a lot.
I like this type of rack using blocks and 1 or 2 by's. You can stack them as high as you can reach.




That's about 1,500 linear, but of course those are really wide boards.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
journeymanPainter likes this.
Jmayspaint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 10:40 PM   #11
Moderator
 
Gough's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Intermountain West
Posts: 10,539
Rewards Points: 840
Thanks: 11,620
Thanked 10,457 Times in 5,722 Posts
View Gough's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PRC View Post
Similar to this? But free standing and double sided?

These were mounted to the joists.
Yup. We adjust the spacing between the two rack to accommodate everything from cabinet doors to 16-0 wood siding.

No HardiPlank, though...too heavy. Don't ask me how I know that.
__________________
“The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it.” – Henry David Thoreau
Gough is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 11:36 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
ridesarize's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Near Seattle
Posts: 1,345
Rewards Points: 622
Thanks: 1,074
Thanked 694 Times in 438 Posts
View ridesarize's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Still like this light weight wood block system. 2x4 or 2x3's. Fill buckets or a trash can with blocks for the shop or at the jobsite. Here's 190 boards not even full height. Stickers are 1x3 furring strips cut in half (48") which hold up great. If one was concerned about sag, you could easily place a block in the center and they would be strong enough for Ipe.

While unstacking you can toss blocks in a can or bucket quickly. While stacking boards it's easy to stage a bunch of blocks close and ready to grab.
Attached Thumbnails
500,000 boardfeet-20160314_115451.jpg  

Technogod likes this.
__________________
That lacquer undercoater doesn't affect me affect me...

Last edited by ridesarize; 11-14-2016 at 11:41 PM..
ridesarize is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ridesarize For This Useful Post:
Technogod (11-15-2016)
Old 11-15-2016, 12:07 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
ridesarize's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Near Seattle
Posts: 1,345
Rewards Points: 622
Thanks: 1,074
Thanked 694 Times in 438 Posts
View ridesarize's Photo Album My Photos
Default

This could easily be 8ft wide, just shoot a nail into a block at the 48" mark for center support.
__________________
That lacquer undercoater doesn't affect me affect me...
ridesarize is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 11:25 AM   #14
RH
Moderator
 
RH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 15,301
Rewards Points: 11,058
Thanks: 10,387
Thanked 14,582 Times in 7,461 Posts
View RH's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jmayspaint View Post
Guess you missed the "by the hour" part

If someone wants to pay a man to dig a ditch with a tooth pick, why not let them?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
By the hour or not, the thought of doing 25,000 twenty foot sections of trim (or what ever combinations of lengths there are) by hand is enough to give me the willies.
__________________
"I'm sure glad you called me. There's no room for amateurs in this game."

John Goodman - "Arachnophobia"
RH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 01:08 PM   #15
Moderator
 
Wildbill7145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,033
Rewards Points: 944
Thanks: 3,503
Thanked 3,944 Times in 2,051 Posts
View Wildbill7145's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RH View Post
By the hour or not, the thought of doing 25,000 twenty foot sections of trim (or what ever combinations of lengths there are) by hand is enough to give me the willies.
Along with lots and lots of updates to the OPPU thread.

"Oh my back/wrist/neck/etc. hurts."
Gough and cdpainting like this.
Wildbill7145 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 03:45 PM   #16
Moderator
 
Gough's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Intermountain West
Posts: 10,539
Rewards Points: 840
Thanks: 11,620
Thanked 10,457 Times in 5,722 Posts
View Gough's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RH View Post
By the hour or not, the thought of doing 25,000 twenty foot sections of trim (or what ever combinations of lengths there are) by hand is enough to give me the willies.
Are you seeing stock that long? If so, I'm jealous. Most of the specialty stuff that we've seen lately is 8s and 10s. So, 50,000 to 60,000 pieces would be more like it.

When we've prefinished wood siding, getting random lengths certainly didn't help. We'd have to have racks set up for several different lengths and sort the units as we worked through them.
__________________
“The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it.” – Henry David Thoreau
Gough is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 05:19 PM   #17
Moderator
 
Wildbill7145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,033
Rewards Points: 944
Thanks: 3,503
Thanked 3,944 Times in 2,051 Posts
View Wildbill7145's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gough View Post
Are you seeing stock that long? If so, I'm jealous. Most of the specialty stuff that we've seen lately is 8s and 10s. So, 50,000 to 60,000 pieces would be more like it.

When we've prefinished wood siding, getting random lengths certainly didn't help. We'd have to have racks set up for several different lengths and sort the units as we worked through them.
My buddy who's a GC always uses poplar on his jobs. Always gets 16's. However, that is poplar. 8's and 10's would be brutal.
Wildbill7145 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 09:02 PM   #18
RH
Moderator
 
RH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 15,301
Rewards Points: 11,058
Thanks: 10,387
Thanked 14,582 Times in 7,461 Posts
View RH's Photo Album My Photos
Default

This will be Dave and a guy from his crew on day four...
Attached Images
 
__________________
"I'm sure glad you called me. There's no room for amateurs in this game."

John Goodman - "Arachnophobia"
RH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 09:04 PM   #19
RH
Moderator
 
RH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 15,301
Rewards Points: 11,058
Thanks: 10,387
Thanked 14,582 Times in 7,461 Posts
View RH's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gough View Post
Are you seeing stock that long? If so, I'm jealous. Most of the specialty stuff that we've seen lately is 8s and 10s. So, 50,000 to 60,000 pieces would be more like it.

When we've prefinished wood siding, getting random lengths certainly didn't help. We'd have to have racks set up for several different lengths and sort the units as we worked through them.
No, just grabbed that number and went with it. Actually, twenties of anything would be a PITA to handle.
__________________
"I'm sure glad you called me. There's no room for amateurs in this game."

John Goodman - "Arachnophobia"
RH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 09:45 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Central MS
Posts: 5,097
Rewards Points: 274
Thanks: 9,450
Thanked 5,582 Times in 2,957 Posts
View slinger58's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Well since no one else has pointed it out, I will. In Dave's thread title he says 500,000 board feet instead of linear feet. They're not the same, ya know.
cdpainting likes this.
__________________
"you don't put peas in oatmeal!!" lilpaintchic
slinger58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | ElectricianTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com