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Old 08-19-2016, 10:55 AM   #1
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Hey guys I am having issues spraying ka+ on verticals without getting sags or runs..I am using graco 395 aaa. With flat tip 309 and can't seem to atomize properly.

I would like to hear yall setup. Tip, air pressure. Fluid pressure...etc..
Do you thin or not thin product.

Any other information would be greatly appreciated
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I just got done spraying trim with my 395 aaa. While I wasn't using ka+ I was fighting runs and sags, but it was due to the high humidity. I bought a cheap hygrometer in an effort to control the environment as much as I could. I found a direct correlation between temperature/ humidity and the amount of runs/ sags.
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I do have issues with humidity also being I live in South Louisiana but the room I'm spraying in is in a insulated shop running about 60 percent humility
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Then I'd watch your spray pattern. My runs come from my start stop areas. Which are always on the corners of jambs for me.
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Absolutely but have u ever worked with ka+ clear? the product is very thin and seems to be almost impossible to spray cabinet boxes without getting sags or runs with an aaa rig..thinking I may need a good hvlp for waterborne clears
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KA+ was designed for cabinet and production shops according to my rep. In this type environment you remove a lot of variables that painters working onsite typically deal with.

If you're having issues with runs its possible that the orifice on your tip is too large.


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Haven't used ka+. By the time I do, I hope you can help me 😃
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Try doing a tack coat, let it get really sticky before you lay down your topcoat. Also direct airflow will help bigtime. I have had a helper hold a fan onto face frames to keep it from sagging.
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I used to get paid a pretty good chunk of change to tell people how to use this product.
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I used to get paid a pretty good chunk of change to tell people how to use this product.
So how do you spray it? I've only ever heard of it here
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I used to get paid a pretty good chunk of change to tell people how to use this product.
Is that a hint that we'll have to pay you some change for this information? 😉
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- Never and ever mix Kem Aqua or Kem Aqua Plus to each other.Use same type of label for undercoat and color coat.
-DO NOT try to spray with your heavy body Airless sprayer or your paint brushes.You will fail %95 of the times.
- Check your weather all times.Do not spray Higher temp(more than 100 F)
-Do not use your everyday primers for this product.it will fail after some time.
-Do not use over pressure while spraying.will cause micro bubble.
-Test panel,test panel,test panel with a proper spraying speed and make sure you lay around 4 mil wet.
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I'll just switch to a different product that is more user friendly. Don't have the time or patience to spray this stuff in environments that I can't control.. besides I haven't gotten a direct answer to my question yet .. sounds like nobody is spraying this stuff
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I'll just switch to a different product that is more user friendly. Don't have the time or patience to spray this stuff in environments that I can't control.. besides I haven't gotten a direct answer to my question yet .. sounds like nobody is spraying this stuff
Let me give the answer of your question.

no more than %5 retarder to extend the drying and no thinning.
it is already very thin and more thinning will weaken the product.

yes you are right.many variables to check and follow but heyy this product is meant to use at production shops to spray on turntables and adjusted air temperatures in front of the water fall filters.

Need time to get use to tough.like a new friend.take it or leave it
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I used an HVLP with a 2g pot when spraying KA and I also use a headlight strapped to my forehead for good lighting. 4 mil.
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Is that a hint that we'll have to pay you some change for this information? 😉
well technically, he already paid someone for this information. If they aren't capable or willing to give it to their paying customers why the hell should I give it away for free? It's their product, let them service it!
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well technically, he already paid someone for this information. If they aren't capable or willing to give it to their paying customers why the hell should I give it away for free? It's their product, let them service it!
That's a terrible attitude pacman. What about the rest of us that didn't pay? 😩
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That's a terrible attitude pacman. What about the rest of us that didn't pay? 😩
I know it seems like a bad attitude and mean, but SW is the company that is well known in the paint industry for getting rid of most of their knowledgeable, experienced employees so they can replace them with paint experts straight out of business school. Honestly, I don't see any reason to bail them out for their 5hitty human resources policies.

My P&L rep, the one that replaced the one that had many years of experience and got forced to "retire" because he was making more money after years with the company, is straight out of college and doesn't have a clue what he is doing. Not a clue. I'm not in quite the frame of mind lately to "help" them.
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Unfortunately this human resource policy injustice isn't limited to just SW. It's the cold hard reality of capitalism. That's why I have a bachelor's degree in business. So I can knock off some over paid lifer at SW someday. If I'm lucky I might get the high stress job of sales rep. Who knows. 😁
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