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Old 05-01-2012, 10:08 PM   #41
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I dipped my toe into the Festool pond not too long ago and now I'm in it up to my eyeballs. I've got the RTS 400, ETS 125, RO 150, RO 90, CT 22, Compact cleaning kit, and assorted hoses and accessories. Next up, certified HEPA extractor (I'm thinking either Midi or CT36), LS 130, Planex, ETS 150, CT 36 AC... where does it end? Oh well. I recently used Granat 150 grit on my RO150 for sanding all the interior walls in a small house and I only went through 2-3 sanding discs. There was no loading at all on any of the used discs, they just eventually got too dull to cut any more. I went out today and got a bunch of Granat paper for both of my Rotex sanders that I'll be putting to use tomorrow on an exterior. I've compared Granat to Abranet in the same grit (120) and in the test that I did, the Granat cut faster with no sacrifice in the quality of the finish. I've also compared Granat to Rubin, and I can tell you for a fact that the Rubin will load up on you alot quicker if you're sanding latex paint.
From what I have heard, abra is hell on pads as well because of the lack of backing.



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Old 05-01-2012, 10:15 PM   #42
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To your op, if your concern is primarily drywall patch sanding (and dust control), the ro 90, while a great tool for many things, is not ideally suited to this task because of its pad size, and lack of balance in a one handed float sanding style.

As mentioned above by others, the ets family is great for this, but I think outdone by the dts because of its ability to do corner work and point. I sanded the drywall in a bathroom remod last week and found it to be quite pleasing.

Depends on the variety of task types you are looking to solve.



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To your op, if your concern is primarily drywall patch sanding (and dust control), the ro 90, while a great tool for many things, is not ideally suited to this task because of its pad size, and lack of balance in a one handed float sanding style.

As mentioned above by others, the ets family is great for this, but I think outdone by the dts because of its ability to do corner work and point. I sanded the drywall in a bathroom remod last week and found it to be quite pleasing.

Depends on the variety of task types you are looking to solve.
I wasn't the OP, Sovereign 1963 was. I hear what you're saying, but for whatever reason I prefer my ETS 125 for sanding drywall. I find that the RTS is more finicky when it comes to the vacuum level than the 125 is. I have used the RTS for sanding drywall and it does a really nice job, especially in the corners and edges, so I guess it's just a preference thing
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I wasn't the OP, Sovereign 1963 was. I hear what you're saying, but for whatever reason I prefer my ETS 125 for sanding drywall. I find that the RTS is more finicky when it comes to the vacuum level than the 125 is. I have used the RTS for sanding drywall and it does a really nice job, especially in the corners and edges, so I guess it's just a preference thing
Oops. You're right, rts and dts both prefer lowest extraction possible. You have a good setup with the ets and rts. If you had neither and were looking at alot of drywall sanding, I would definitely recommend the dts over the ets or rts.



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We noticed the brilliant 2 had almost twice as much grit it 60 grit compared to granat and seemed to work better on the roll top desk.
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Damn both those discs are beat to hell.
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Fr some reason, they wore very fast on the outer edfge, too much speed maybe??? I find a slow speeds I get too much sander vibration sometimes.

That 100 year old oak is like sanding granat though. Seriously, the 60 grit is not leaving any sanding marks on the oak.
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Damn both those discs are beat to hell.
I'm curious about this abranet vs Granat argument. Just met with the Mirka dealer and we'll likely be bringing in the Ceros and Abranet. So far you're under the impression that Granat takes the cake?
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I'm curious about this abranet vs Granat argument. Just met with the Mirka dealer and we'll likely be bringing in the Ceros and Abranet. So far you're under the impression that Granat takes the cake?
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I have never used Abranet, so I have no first hand comparison to go on. I have done a lot of reading on the Ceros though and would love to try one. JP swears by the Abranet over Festool paper and Festool guys go with the Festool paper. I have pretty much been using Granat from the start with the exception of some Brilliant that came as samples with the sanders so it is what I am familiar with but again have not used Abranet.
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I have never used Abranet, so I have no first hand comparison to go on. I have done a lot of reading on the Ceros though and would love to try one. JP swears by the Abranet over Festool paper and Festool guys go with the Festool paper. I have pretty much been using Granat from the start with the exception of some Brilliant that came as samples with the sanders so it is what I am familiar with but again have not used Abranet.
Ah, sorry Workaholic. Was trying to quote mpminter's post but it grabbed yours instead. He mentioned the Granatcut nicer than the Abranet
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In my little test the Granat was slightly faster and it lasted a long time. Not only that, I can get Festool products locally and I have to order Abranet online
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