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Old 01-15-2012, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default Has anyone ever used abranet abrasives on a pole sander?

Has anyone ever tried putting this abrasive on one of these sanding heads? It looks like it might be an inexpensive way to sand walls and drywall patches on interior repaints. Any thoughts?
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Has anyone ever tried putting this abrasive on one of these sanding heads? It looks like it might be an inexpensive way to sand walls and drywall patches on interior repaints. Any thoughts?
I haven't tried that set up. I have not heard great things about the hyde tool.

I would go with this and this .
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Eventually that's exactly what I'll do, but I could buy the Hyde AND the roll of abranet 5 times and still be out less than the festool setup before buying abrasives. I'm kind of slow right now so I'm watching the cash outlay pretty closely. There are several festool products that I have my eye on (RO 150, RO 90, RTS 400, RAS 115.4, CT MIDI or 26 E) but I don't want to wait until I can afford festool before going dustless.
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Eventually that's exactly what I'll do, but I could buy the Hyde AND the roll of abranet 5 times and still be out less than the festool setup before buying abrasives. I'm kind of slow right now so I'm watching the cash outlay pretty closely. There are several festool products that I have my eye on (RO 150, RO 90, RTS 400, RAS 115.4, CT MIDI or 26 E) but I don't want to wait until I can afford festool before going dustless.
I know what you mean.

I am sure that some have tried the Hyde I know Bill has/is using/used something similar to it so maybe he will chime in.

I say give it a shot and let us know how it works for you. My guess is that it will allow more dust than other systems such as Festool but it will probably keep it down to a minimum.
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Eventually that's exactly what I'll do, but I could buy the Hyde AND the roll of abranet 5 times and still be out less than the festool setup before buying abrasives. I'm kind of slow right now so I'm watching the cash outlay pretty closely. There are several festool products that I have my eye on (RO 150, RO 90, RTS 400, RAS 115.4, CT MIDI or 26 E) but I don't want to wait until I can afford festool before going dustless.
If your plan is to end up with Festool equipment, I would get this set, which is extractrable, and this one, which is not. These two sets are the ultimate recycling program for those abrasives that have been broken in on power sanders, and both sets work well.



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If your plan is to end up with Festool equipment, I would get this set, which is extractrable, and this one, which is not. These two sets are the ultimate recycling program for those abrasives that have been broken in on power sanders, and both sets work well.
Nice article Scott, I had not seen that hand tool before.
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Can anyone comment on Festool abrasives vs. Mirka abranet? From what I've read here, Abranet is about the best there is for sanding latex paint.
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Can anyone comment on Festool abrasives vs. Mirka abranet? From what I've read here, Abranet is about the best there is for sanding latex paint.
I have run Granat against Goldflex extensively.

And Granat against most everything ridiculous I can think of:




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If your plan is to end up with Festool equipment, I would get this set, which is extractrable, and this one, which is not. These two sets are the ultimate recycling program for those abrasives that have been broken in on power sanders, and both sets work well.
I'd like to be able to sand the entire wall, not just patches so that's why I wanted a pole sander. Also, Festool has a weird vac connection on all their stuff, so I'm not sure how I would hook it up securely to my existing vac. I'm not saying that the blocks you mentioned were a bad idea, but I just want to clarify what it is that I'm trying to accomplish. I appreciate the input!
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I use Abracadabra on the Flex Edge pole sander. Its like magic without the hat and wand. If you go too aggressive, it will stop you dead in your tracks so go finer than normal. 180 works great for general new construction surfaces and 120 on repaints. The Abranet excels on repaints. Its actually stupid-good how well it works.

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One pass down the wall over flat paint. It works like a wood file so its shaving paint off relatively quick. I always recommend taping base first on NC because of the amount of paint removed. Then dusting base afterwards. If timed correctly, we spray trim and doors, next day tape base on fresh paint then sand before any wall patch dust can make any contact with the base. Just helps with adhesion because this way there is no dust residue left behind. One other thing with the Abranet is how it shaves paint off creates considerably less airborne dust. Larger particles I suppose may be the result of that.

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Thanks for the info Jack. I knew you were a big fan of Mirka products, and I have to say, you're a heck of a lot better than me about taking pictures of stuff! Do you think that the the Hyde would work for dustless sanding or are the holes in the abranet too small for the particles to pass through?
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Alright....I've seen enough to convince myself to try some of this Abranet stuff.

Looks like I need to order this:
http://www.amazon.com/Mirka-9A-150-180RP-pieces-4-Inch-Abranet/dp/B001BKVZWK/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1326680498&sr=8-28
And then this "Interface Pad", which from my understanding keeps the Abranet from eating up the hook & loop on my sander:
http://www.amazon.com/Mirka-91505RP-4-Inch-2-Inch-Interface/dp/B001BKVZY8/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_c
Is this correct?

Too bad they don't make a size big enough to fit the Radius 360 sander
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Ya, I've been down this road.

Started with this.....

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Then moved to this....



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Now I'm working with the Festool set up. (extractor with power sander....no pic)

I hear ya its not cheap, but.....a few thoughts....

The Hyde without a variable suction....doesn't work. The vac sucks the abrasive to the wall and it will 'stick'. Also the mesh will NOT give you a smooth surface. In this situation you will always have little grooves in the mud from where the mesh folds around to the clamp. I've tried pads to fix this....simply its not a great system.

Scott, are those available in N.America?

The velcro pads work much better! Price difference in the handhelds is negligible.

See if you can find an extractor with variable speed.
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Scott, are those available in N.America?
That is what I was wondering
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P&H, are you talking about HYDE mesh or abranet mesh re: the little grooves. Never tried the HYDE system so not sure what comes with it for abrasives.
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P&H, are you talking about HYDE mesh or abranet mesh re: the little grooves. Never tried the HYDE system so not sure what comes with it for abrasives.
Hyde.

We might be talking about two completely different things.

The Hyde is a mesh that is held on in the conventional way of wrapping it around the head and clamps. (not like what you have in your pic)
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crazyson, if you want to pole sand then grab the rolls. They are 4.5" by 30' which is 42 sheets cut 8.5 to fit the Flex Edge pad. That comes out to about $1.19 to $1.36 ea depending on where you buy and live. One mesh sheet will sand an entire 1800 sq ft house NC but I like to use two. I save all of the used mesh, they can be used for a long time after you wore them out on the walls.
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Hyde.

We might be talking about two completely different things.

The Hyde is a mesh that is held on in the conventional way of wrapping it around the head and clamps. (not like what you have in your pic)
Gotcha, I checked out some other pics. That does look a bit aggressive.
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