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Old 09-08-2011, 11:18 PM   #1
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Default Need a sander for paint removal.

I have a myriad of sanders, but I need something meaty that will go through some paint layers, but not cost $500 or too ridiculously heavy and bulky. (ladder use)

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I like the Velcro replacement pads or clip ons, not the adhesive type as I burn through paper on a siding.
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Peel Away 7. Sanding to bare wood sounds horrible. Sorry I'm not more help.
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Check out the Festool RAS 115. I think its less than $500 and it's their most aggressive sander. Plus, it's shrouded and can be hooked up to a HEPA vac so you could use it on RRP jobs
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I'm not needing to go to bare wood, but the customer wants it to be "smooth". (yes we're clear on expectations)

100 year old house with about 3 layers on it. (pics are on my phone) 2.5 story, 3000sqft house.

I'm currently using my P.C. 4" belt sander with 60 grit and a Bosche 5" with 40 grid, but I still feel too slow. Feeling weather pressure to get this done.

For the record, the paint will be two coats of Aura for build. (after oil primer)
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http://www.finepaintsofeurope.com/pa...al_system.aspx Use this if you don't care about the dust
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But you don't have to go to Europe to buy it!
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Seriously, check out the Festool I mentioned. It's small, light, and powerful and it sounds like it would be perfect for what you're doing. Heck, one of their rotex machines would probably do it.
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Seriously, check out the Festool I mentioned. It's small, light, and powerful and it sounds like it would be perfect for what you're doing. Heck, one of their rotex machines would probably do it.
I saw those in a previous PT post. Looks promising.
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I'm not needing to go to bare wood, but the customer wants it to be "smooth". (yes we're clear on expectations)

100 year old house with about 3 layers on it. (pics are on my phone) 2.5 story, 3000sqft house.

I'm currently using my P.C. 4" belt sander with 60 grit and a Bosche 5" with 40 grid, but I still feel too slow. Feeling weather pressure to get this done.

For the record, the paint will be two coats of Aura for build. (after oil primer)
The Mirka CEROS really excels at what you are trying to do. It is so light (2 lbs) and easy to hold and maneuver against the house. The CEROS with Abranet is one truly amazing sanding experience tied to a vac for stripping so for what you are trying to do its effortless. Its on the site under Equipment. I'll shoot a video and get it up as soon as the rain stops. Been raining all week and says rain thru the weekend.

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Seriously, check out the Festool I mentioned. It's small, light, and powerful and it sounds like it would be perfect for what you're doing. Heck, one of their rotex machines would probably do it.
Reading about it now. Weight to power ratio is always something I look for.

I've got a few belt sanders, but good luck holding those with one hand which is what makes that 4" PC nice.
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The Mirka CEROS really excels at what you are trying to do. It is so light (2 lbs) and easy to hold and maneuver against the house. The CEROS with Abranet is one truly amazing sanding experience tied to a vac for stripping so for what you are trying to do its effortless. Its on the site under Equipment. I'll shoot a video and get it up as soon as the rain stops. Been raining all week and says rain thru the weekend.

Is this in the Festool family also?
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Seriously, check out the Festool I mentioned. It's small, light, and powerful and it sounds like it would be perfect for what you're doing. Heck, one of their rotex machines would probably do it.

For $300 this looks like a good suggestion.....will check one out tomorrow....thanks.
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No this is MIRKA. Known for abrasives and automotive refinishing but the company is aggressively merging the automotive refinishing technology specific to paint contractors. The CEROS is dream sanding but the Abranet abrasives are very effective even on a hand held sander. Pole sanding walls, a breeze. Where other sandpapers clog up and create those round strands when u try to sand eggshell, Abranet makes sandpaper look like kids play. That stuff is amazing in itself so when attached to the CEROS, its incredibly effective.

I'll post the solution for ladder work too because it has a transformer that goes with it. Not a big deal at all and the solution is actually perfect for so many other things. You'll feel comfortable on a ladder.
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Not trying to be a suck up jack, but thanks for the info. If anything, it provides a benchmark where one doesn't exist.
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No this is MIRKA. Known for abrasives and automotive refinishing but the company is aggressively merging the automotive refinishing technology specific to paint contractors. The CEROS is dream sanding but the Abranet abrasives are very effective even on a hand held sander. Pole sanding walls, a breeze. Where other sandpapers clog up and create those round strands when u try to sand eggshell, Abranet makes sandpaper look like kids play. That stuff is amazing in itself so when attached to the CEROS, its incredibly effective.

I'll post the solution for ladder work too because it has a transformer that goes with it. Not a big deal at all and the solution is actually perfect for so many other things. You'll feel comfortable on a ladder.
Haven't heard of it and Festool came up along with it in my search.

It looks like a pneumatic tool. (I know it isn't) Frankly the $625 price tag is more than I want to spend on a sander. 2 LBS is very interesting though.

Interesting comments on Abranet abrasives. Like drill bits I accept that most things are crap nowadays and buy in bulk and mow through them....will check them out.
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Haven't heard of it and Festool came up along with it in my search.

It looks like a pneumatic tool. (I know it isn't) Frankly the $625 price tag is more than I want to spend on a sander. 2 LBS is very interesting though.

Interesting comments on Abranet abrasives. Like drill bits I accept that most things are crap nowadays and buy in bulk and mow through them....will check them out.
Looks like you're back to the Makita PH. $ 180.00 Chaching!
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Looks like you're back to the Makita PH. $ 180.00 Chaching!

I'm going to check out the Festool if they have it in stock. A while back I was debating the Festool or Fein vacuum and bought the Fein mostly because the Festool outlet here didn't seem to be great on customer service.
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Haven't heard of it and Festool came up along with it in my search.

It looks like a pneumatic tool. (I know it isn't) Frankly the $625 price tag is more than I want to spend on a sander. 2 LBS is very interesting though.

Interesting comments on Abranet abrasives. Like drill bits I accept that most things are crap nowadays and buy in bulk and mow through them....will check them out.
I know u don't want to be in the $500 range but its $495 transformer included. You need to buy Abranet or Abranet HD depending on what kind of removal you want to do.

The CEROS is designed after their pneumatic auto refinishing sanders. It feels just like one but quiet.
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I'm going to check out the Festool if they have it in stock. A while back I was debating the Festool or Fein vacuum and bought the Fein mostly because the Festool outlet here didn't seem to be great on customer service.
I will also be looking into an alternative to my current sanding device. Good luck to you!
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