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Old 03-25-2020, 05:08 PM   #281
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Is Conan sitting on the official government covid19 advisory board???

I thought I saw him on one of the press briefings, in the background. It was hard to tell if it was him, as so many people were crowded around the podium. And they were standing so close to each other. It was like trying to find Waldo...or Rand Paul at the Senate gym....
To think that Rand Paul is an MD and knew it was likely he may have had Covid-19 and was cavalier enough to go to the gym and saunter around the Senate Chambers is not very intelligent.
Maybe his attempt to keep his girlish figure overrode his common sense. You'd think that if he was getting chunky around the waist or developing cellulite on his thighs that he could afford liposuction with that $580,000 settlement he got from his neighbor.
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:12 PM   #282
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Last time folks. This takes a political turn it gets shut down. We have no problem handing out two week quarantines. You want to go political, hit up the thread in the Outhouse.
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:36 PM   #283
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How is it that we put all of our eggs in one basket (China) to produce critical supplies? It's scary to think that 97% of the antibiotics used in the US are made in China. The Department of Commerce study found that 97 percent of all antibiotics in the United States came from China. “If you’re the Chinese and you want to really just destroy us, just stop sending us antibiotics".

It's time to pull our heads out of the sand and set up the infrastructure we need to be more self-sufficient in critical areas of need.
As Rosemary Gibson noted in her testimony, centralization of the global supply chain of medicines in a single country makes it vulnerable to interruption, “whether by mistake or design.” If we are dependent on China for thousands of ingredients and raw materials to make our medicine, China could use this dependence as a weapon against us. While the Department of Defense only purchases a small quantity of finished pharmaceuticals from China, about 80 percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) used to make drugs in the United States are said to come from China and other countries like India.
Only one answer as to why....bottom dollar greed.

Shameful and reckless....
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Then they could stockpile rubber seals and gaskets and replace them as needed. You don't junk your car because you have an oil leak.
Yep that needs to be done,but we would not need to stockpile near as much if we had the production capacity here.

What's really needed is to bring the manufacturing back to the USA
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It was just announced self employed will be able to apply for unemployment comp for the first time ever, under the proposed Corona Relief Bill.

That should help a lot of contractors.....

And 1099ers
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I know someone who has a friend who is a high ranking FBI agent stationed in Italy. He has been loaned to the CDC over there and said the Italian Doctors are making an assessment of older people with complications and deciding which ones will get put on a ventilator.

In his news briefing, this morning Gov. Cuomo said the Italians are putting two people on one ventilator because there aren't enough to go around. He said healthcare officials are studying that in NY in case they have the same situation.
If your over 60 in Italy, you don't even get considered for a ventilator, according to news reports.
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I've never been there! It's hilarious on TV, but, not sure I'd go for that in real life. I remember Ed Debevic's and Dick's Last Resort were like that too, I think. They confused more than a few tourists.
A large percentage of these people are coming in here after leaving bars in the area, and they want some food and actually don't care about the banter!
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A little bit of good news in the fight against Covid-19, let's hope and pray that more is on its way.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/24/coro...ntilators.html
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If your over 60 in Italy, you don't even get considered for a ventilator, according to news reports.
It's a good thing we don't know if we have Covid-19 and we don't live in Italy.
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It's a good thing we don't know if we have Covid-19 and we don't live in Italy.
It’s not good to not know if you’re a carrier, IMO.

I heard a Dr. from Italy on NPR a couple days ago say that citizens over 65 with comorbidity and symptoms should stay home. They’re not going to get treated. They’re choosing who gets to live or die.

The US is on track to surpass Italy and China.

We’re number one?
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It’s not good to not know if you’re a carrier, IMO.

I heard a Dr. from Italy on NPR a couple days ago say that citizens over 65 with comorbidity and symptoms should stay home. They’re not going to get treated. They’re choosing who gets to live or die.

The US is on track to surpass Italy and China.

We’re number one?
Well if you're a carrier and had little or very mild systems and have recovered that's a good thing as long as you didn't infect others.

It's unfortunate to say that if your over 60 and or have underlying conditions and test positive the best chance of a good outcome is to get hospitalized early while doctors , supplies, and ventilators are still available. The exception is of course in the hotspots around the country that are already being stressed.

This morning I watched numerous Doctors and health care officials as they were asked if they talked about having to decide which people with the worst cases get treated or not, they said that they haven't addressed that issue yet, but may have to revisit it at a later time.
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Well if you're a carrier and had little or very mild systems and have recovered that's a good thing as long as you didn't infect others.

It's unfortunate to say that if your over 60 and or have underlying conditions and test positive the best chance of a good outcome is to get hospitalized early while doctors , supplies, and ventilators are still available. The exception is of course in the hotspots around the country that are already being stressed.

This morning I watched numerous Doctors and health care officials as they were asked if they talked about having to decide which people with the worst cases get treated or not, they said that they haven't addressed that issue yet, but may have to revisit it at a later time.
Anytime there is an event that results in multiple people getting injured, first responders categorize victims by the severity of their injury. Also known as triaging.

A crisis, unfortunately, requires quick decisions that don't offer the luxury of time or resources to accommodate everyone in the way we're accustomed to.

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Well if you're a carrier and had little or very mild systems and have recovered that's a good thing as long as you didn't infect others.

It's unfortunate to say that if your over 60 and or have underlying conditions and test positive the best chance of a good outcome is to get hospitalized early while doctors , supplies, and ventilators are still available. The exception is of course in the hotspots around the country that are already being stressed.

This morning I watched numerous Doctors and health care officials as they were asked if they talked about having to decide which people with the worst cases get treated or not, they said that they haven't addressed that issue yet, but may have to revisit it at a later time.
And as unfortunate as it may be, those who can afford to pay for good care, or those who have strong advocates in the form of immediate family members, may end up getting preference over those elderly high risk patients that have neither.
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I just postponed all my work. Been working on isolated sites lately but still feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette. Who touched the paint can, or the tools, or the door handle? It's still isolated cases where I live but people act like it's no big deal. I'm out.........
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Considering how people have reacted to the CV situation, have to wonder more of them will be inclined to get flu shots next season. Know lots of people who decline getting them but who would likely jump at the chance to get a vaccine against the CV in the future.
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And as unfortunate as it may be, those who can afford to pay for good care, or those who have strong advocates in the form of immediate family members, may end up getting preference over those elderly high risk patients that have neither.
RH, I hear you, but the problem is that in many areas of the country no visitors are allowed in the hospitals. In Queens NY yesterday at Elmhurst Hospital alone 13 people passed away because of Covid-19, in one day!

Many of the hospitals in NY City are having a refrigerated trailer delivered on site to preserve the bodies.

Families of the deceased can't have proper wakes and funerals because of social distancing.
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Considering how people have reacted to the CV situation, have to wonder more of them will be inclined to get flu shots next season. Know lots of people who decline getting them but who would likely jump at the chance to get a vaccine against the CV in the future.
In an earlier post, I wondered if the CDC was tracking the infection and morbidity rate of people who had flu and pneumonia vaccinations as opposed to those who didn't and haven't yet heard anything about this.
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Montana is shelter in place effective Saturday 12am. My God I thought we would be the last hold out but by golly we were smarter than a 5th grader this time around. RIP all the small business who don't survive.
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Considering how people have reacted to the CV situation, have to wonder more of them will be inclined to get flu shots next season. Know lots of people who decline getting them but who would likely jump at the chance to get a vaccine against the CV in the future.
In an earlier post, I wondered if the CDC was tracking the infection and morbidity rate of people who had flu and pneumonia vaccinations as opposed to those who didn't and haven't yet heard anything about this.
I doubt the CDC has the budget to track anything anymore.

Hell I called into the hospital because I may have been potentially exposed. They told me I wouldn't be tested and to just self isolate for two weeks.

I suppose I'll just take two weeks off everytime I'm potentially exposed from here on out then. We're totally screwed.
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I've got one person who just keeps calling me and leaving messages about when I'm coming to do two days of painting. I told them already early on in this that it was likely being postponed if things got worse and I'd be in touch when things got better.


Things haven't got better, they've got worse. I can't bring myself to answer the phone because I think I'll lose it on her. My wife was in shock when I was listening to the latest message on my phone.
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