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Old 11-18-2019, 08:14 PM   #41
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The remake wasn't better just different. I have seen the original countless times. They filmed it 25 miles from where I live now.
"That's bold talk"....

I didn't see the remake until about 5 years after its release... I scoffed at the idea of a remake of such a classic. Might as well remake the Godfather , I thought. When I did finally see the remake, I was surprised I found it to have higher production values (maybe more due to advanced technology than anything) and better acting. I just thought the actors playing Roster and Mattie did a better job. It really pains me to say Jeff Bridges outdid Waynie, but IMO, he did. And Hailee Steinfeld turned in one of the best performances ever by an actress of her age. Again, IMO. The closing sequences of the remake is what really differentiates the two versions, in my mind. I like the way the remake ends. Although the last line of the original is classic. "Well, come see a fat old man sometime".

Your assessment of both being great is spot on , though. Definitely beautiful country where both were shot.
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"That's bold talk"....

I didn't see the remake until about 5 years after its release... I scoffed at the idea of a remake of such a classic. Might as well remake the Godfather , I thought. When I did finally see the remake, I was surprised I found it to have higher production values (maybe more due to advanced technology than anything) and better acting. I just thought the actors playing Roster and Mattie did a better job. It really pains me to say Jeff Bridges outdid Waynie, but IMO, he did. And Hailee Steinfeld turned in one of the best performances ever by an actress of her age. Again, IMO. The closing sequences of the remake is what really differentiates the two versions, in my mind. I like the way the remake ends. Although the last line of the original is classic. "Well, come see a fat old man sometime".

Your assessment of both being great is spot on , though. Definitely beautiful country where both were shot.
I liked them both and was quite pleased that the remake held it's own. That's so rare. Even as a kid I wondered why they remade good movies (and made them bad) instead of remaking bad movies and making them good.
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I wondered about the remake as well but when I saw that it had Jeff Bridges in it I knew it would be good.Saw it right away. Some of the dialogue in both movies is right out of the book. But the scenery in the original is better and not just because I live here.
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I wondered about the remake as well but when I saw that it had Jeff Bridges in it I knew it would be good.Saw it right away. Some of the dialogue in both movies is right out of the book. But the scenery in the original is better and not just because I live here.
The original was shot in the old Technicolor...a process that was time consuming to process, but yielded excellent results. No doubt lends to the great scenery shots. I.e. the horseback gunfight scene has a beautiful landscape.

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The shoot out scene location is actually pretty small and right on a county road.It is chimney rock and court house mountain in the background.
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The shoot out scene location is actually pretty small and right on a county road.It is chimney rock and court house mountain in the background.
I had no idea that scene was shot at Chimney Rock, an important landmark along the Oregon Trail. I was there when I was a youngster, in the mid 60's. Thanks for that info..

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On the topic of bats, Iím pretty certain that some here probably even smoked a bat at one time or another, the brass one-hitters being shaped like a baseball bat, the one-hitters being popular back in the day.
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On the topic of bats, Iím pretty certain that some here probably even smoked a bat at one time or another, the brass one-hitters being shaped like a baseball bat, the one-hitters being popular back in the day.
IDK about one-hitters but Doc Ellis of the Pirates through a no-hitter, back in the day, while tripping on LSD.
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IDK about one-hitters but Doc Ellis of the Pirates through a no-hitter, back in the day, while tripping on LSD.
I was pretty much a no-hitter. Psychedelics such as lacquer thinner being my drug of choice, often seeing purple elephants when shooting lacquer and not wearing a respirator. Working with CleanWoode used to knock me on my a$$, putting me into the Twilight Zone on a few occasions. It’s a wonder my nerve endings aren’t dewaxed from inhaling that stuff...

There’s actually a term that old timers used to describe the effects of long term solvent use in the trade and its impact on the central nervous system...they would often refer to it as Benny on the Brain from the benzene aka naphtha.
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I was pretty much a no-hitter. Psychedelics such as lacquer thinner being my drug of choice, often seeing purple elephants when shooting lacquer and not wearing a respirator. Working with CleanWoode used to knock me on my a$$, putting me into the Twilight Zone on a few occasions. Itís a wonder my nerve endings arenít dewaxed from inhaling that stuff...

Thereís actually a term that old timers used to describe the effects of long term solvent use in the trade and its impact on the central nervous system...they would often refer to it as Benny on the Brain from the benzene aka naphtha.
The only time I got buzzed at work was on sanding sealer. I didn't have my respirator with me and the only one available was the one that had been used by some weirdo religious nut that had quit or been fired that morning. I remember thinking that wearing that creepy guy's mask was too "intimate". And that's all I remember...

I had the inside of some cabinets to do. It was the end of the day and I just wanted to get it over with. I don't recall driving home. The then-wife harangued me the next day: "I don't what you were doing at work but you were talking some weiiiiiirrrrrd (poop) last night!"

Evidently it was not coherent cause I didn't give away any state secrets that she could decipher. I'm pretty sure I had used sanding sealer a lot without getting buzzed. The difference was, of course, the enclosed space of the cabinets. Lesson learned- wear a respirator whether you like it or not!
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On the topic of bats, Iím pretty certain that some here probably even smoked a bat at one time or another, the brass one-hitters being shaped like a baseball bat, the one-hitters being popular back in the day.
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The only time I got buzzed at work was on sanding sealer. I didn't have my respirator with me and the only one available was the one that had been used by some weirdo religious nut that had quit or been fired that morning. I remember thinking that wearing that creepy guy's mask was too "intimate". And that's all I remember...
My "best paint buzz" was BINning an apartment, walls and ceilings, in which all of the windows were painted shut. I was 18, the summer I graduated HS. Me and my buddy who was helping me showed up at the paint store to get more BIN and the guys at the store cracked up. To them it was pretty obvious...we had no idea we were 3 sheets to the BIN wind!!!
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I had no idea that scene was shot at Chimney Rock, an important landmark along the Oregon Trail. I was there when I was a youngster, in the mid 60's. Thanks for that info..

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The chimney rock in the movie is in s.w. Colorado to the west and north of Ridgway. No trees around the one in Nebraska.
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My "best paint buzz" was BINning an apartment, walls and ceilings, in which all of the windows were painted shut. I was 18, the summer I graduated HS. Me and my buddy who was helping me showed up at the paint store to get more BIN and the guys at the store cracked up. To them it was pretty obvious...we had no idea we were 3 sheets to the BIN wind!!!
So, they knew you had BIN there, done that...
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The chimney rock in the movie is in s.w. Colorado to the west and north of Ridgway. No trees around the one in Nebraska.
I was thinking that something wasn't quite right....I didn't remember trees at Chimney Rock (the one I saw), or it being in CO. I was only 10 or so, so the memory isn't crystal clear. I've been in CO several times, as my sister lives in Longmont, but never to Chimney Rock, Co. After looking on Wiki, I see there is more than one. The one in CO has nicer scenery.
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I was thinking that something wasn't quite right....I didn't remember trees at Chimney Rock (the one I saw), or it being in CO. I was only 10 or so, so the memory isn't crystal clear. I've been in CO several times, as my sister lives in Longmont, but never to Chimney Rock, Co. After looking on Wiki, I see there is more than one. The one in CO has nicer scenery.
I used to summer at a horse ranch while painting back in my early college years, often wearing a Stetson to shade me from the sun while painting. The Stetson had been given to me by the ranch owner, the owner being a former Hollywood starlet. The former starlet owning the ranch was an actress by the name of Stefanie Powers, who also played John Wayneís daughter Becky in McLintock. Working there was a ďveryĒ cool experience, and also my first time ever on a horse, although that wasnít the only thing I was on while working there!
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McClintock is another great John Wayne move. I used to live about 16 miles from where they filmed the mud slide fight scene,in Tombstone AZ. And about 40 miles from the ranch house area near Sonoita AZ.
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