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Old 01-12-2012, 10:47 AM   #21
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You get what you give my friend.Karma's a bitch!
lol, karma.

christ are you a liberal 22 year old college student?

occupy silliness!
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Peers?
Yeah, you know... those things you fish off of down there in Florida.
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Go paint something Wise, Geesh
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hey Kevin,

We have rules of engagement here that dictate respect towards the other participants. Not sure your responses to Aaron would be construed as showing much. May I suggest you adopt your user name and be a little more "wise" ?

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It seems that every day I learn something, appreciate something, that I should have figured out decades ago ...

First off, there's areason they're called SKILLED trades. I try not to kid myself- I can't do everything. Dropping trees .... well, I've seen the pretenders, and I've seen the pros. Gee, maybe there's a reason the pros charge more!

Had a tree guy drop a chunk of limb on a roof. Within an hour his roofer -a real roofing contractor- was there. The repair was invisible. Customer PR disaster turned into a happy moment.

By contrast, a 'wanna-be' dropped a limb on an electrical service. The property owner had to call me in to fix it; the 'tree guy' was at a loss as to what to do.

Those trucks, chippers, insurance, and skilled guys cost $$$$. They're worth it.

Nowadays I'm also a homeowner, and I try to practice all the things I learned in dealing with customers. I want the site ready for the contractor. I want to make access as easy as possible. Plenty of places to work, and lots of trash cans. All the prep work done. No chasing the cats or worrying about the Ming vase.

I remember the things that cause me to reduce my price:
-Know what I want, and ask for it clearly;
-Accomodate them in scheduling;
-Make the job go smoothly; and,
-Pay promptly.
As a single customer, I'm generally not in any position to provide the guy with regular work - so I know the price will reflect that fact.
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Amen my Amish Friend!
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Amish,

I think this whole thread is proving the point you are making. I don't think anyone is arguing that it is well worth it to hire PROFESSIONALS for this type of work.


I too worked trees, but not nearly as long as my paperhanging friend, Chrisn. It is amazing what skilled tree people have. And obviously having once plied that trade, I always watch others doing it.

Having acquired much of the skill myself, I will drop some small stuff or even limb out some "widow makers", but obviously I have not invested in a bucket truck (oh, if I only had a couple hundred grand doing nothing................).

One guy I worked for was at the time in his 60"s (hey, that's my age) and to watch him climb out on thumb sized "limbs" was awe inspiring. And I will say that all tree guys I know are a breed unto themselves, REAL characters.

Of all the trades I know, I think tree men gain my most respect.



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[QUOTE=daArch;281459]Amish,

I think this whole thread is proving the point you are making. I don't think anyone is arguing that it is well worth it to hire PROFESSIONALS for this type of work.


I too worked trees, but not nearly as long as my paperhanging friend, Chrisn. It is amazing what skilled tree people have. And obviously having once plied that trade, I always watch others doing it.

Having acquired much of the skill myself, I will drop some small stuff or even limb out some "widow makers", but obviously I have not invested in a bucket truck (oh, if I only had a couple hundred grand doing nothing................).

One guy I worked for was at the time in his 60"s (hey, that's my age) and to watch him climb out on thumb sized "limbs" was awe inspiring. And I will say that all tree guys I know are a breed unto themselves, REAL characters.

Of all the trades I know, I think tree men gain my most respect.[/QUOTE]

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Some good points made here.

Prior to their arrival I went out and made sure the gates were set to be locked in the open position, the pets were all secured inside, the dog poop was all scooped up (of course I still managed to step in some ), and let my neighbors know what was going to be happening.

Things went well and they finished up today. It's honestly hard to tell that they were here. The only issues were a broken outdoor light which I can fix (I've broken a few myself) and some fairly hefty divots in the back yard where log rounds must have been dropped. They credited us $40 for the light and I'll have to go out tomorrow morning and turn on the sprinkler system to see if any lines or heads got broken. They told my wife that if there was any damage we were to call the regional office and they would take care of it. Tough to avoid collateral damage doing this kind of work but how the company deals with it is the important thing. There's not much more I could expect than for them to say they'll pay for any repairs that are needed.
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Go paint something Wise, Geesh
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so you mods change the goal posts at will to suit the member...

/me furiously scribbles in PT notepad

has anyone else noticed that PT is dead?
I have been banging out primer and gone for a few, I expected more activity.for winter.
I hit new posts, and dust blew out of my mini usb port.

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has anyone else noticed that PT is dead?
I have been banging out primer and gone for a few, I expected more activity.for winter.
I hit new posts, and dust blew out of my mini usb port.
Start a thread on how paint prices are going up then.
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Start a thread on how paint prices are going up then.
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what a racket this web/advertising business is.

Nathan rides the morally gray area of allowing a certain amount of conflict to occur, therefore resulting in clickity clickins.

I fully promote that the Mods get a slice of the cheddar, always have on boards that receive a regular amount of traffic.
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Psssssst. Don't tell anyone, but word is that Sean's up in the six figures.
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no, you go paint something...

so you mods change the goal posts at will to suit the member...

/me furiously scribbles in PT notepad

has anyone else noticed that PT is dead?
I have been banging out primer and gone for a few, I expected more activity.for winter.
I hit new posts, and dust blew out of my mini usb port.
Yeah it has been kinda quiet. One reason I started the thread about the tree removal crew.

Do have a broken sprinkler line. Called them and left a message and got a call back about an hour later telling us to get it fixed and send them the bill. Think I'll do just that - hire someone to do it rather than do it myself and pocket the payment. I hate any type of plumbing work.
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Yup, we pull it in better than a Wal-mart greeter, but THEY don't get a bonus for each person they throw out of the store.


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Yup, we pull it in better than a Wal-mart greeter, but THEY don't get a bonus for each person they throw out of the store.


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Why Bill... Bill Archibald... good to see you again! Always wondered what became of you!
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