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Old 01-10-2011, 11:54 AM   #1
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Just for the old farts.

There we can talk about how we used to do things, and how everything new and improved sucks.

We could sit around recollecting when "green" paint was green, and the only "system" we needed was "hurry up ya bastard".

We could also talk about these young people painting with new paints and tools and standing on our lawns.
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Old 01-10-2011, 12:03 PM   #2
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Sorry for the rant.
Shoveling snow always makes me feel old and grumpy.
Mods are welcome to delete that, w/o any hard feelings from me.
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Old 01-10-2011, 12:09 PM   #3
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Just how old are you? We would need to establish an old fart baseline first.
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I'm 52

Right now my arms and back feel at least 65.
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52?? Shoot, come back in another 20 years and I will give you old fart status then. The father of the painter I used to work for would help out on jobs sometimes in his 70's. We ended up having to watch what we would let him do, but for a couple years at least he could still cut a straight line even though his hands were as shaky as all get out. Finally though the eyesight got him and he could not see that he was not painting all the way up to trim and ceiling lines anymore and I had to recut everything behind him. It was a sad day.
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You live in Denver Steve?
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Indeed.
But I like hearing about old painters that fade away... (beats some of the alternatives).

I saw a guy I started out with at the paint store a couple weeks ago.
He had his grey hair pulled into a pony-tail, and I couldn't hep but think how old he looked.
unfortunately we're the same age.
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No, Bender. But close to it

Most of my work is in Denver though.
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I'm no old time, just a young whipper snapper here. But I have worked around a lot of old skool painters. Love how they don't want to change to the new way. One guy (supervisor bout 12 years ago) got pizzed at me cause I brought a hand masker on the job. Some of the 1st spray men were a riot. Spraying production units, with no respirator and a cig hanging out of their mouth. One thing is they can bang out some rolling, their isn't any better than a old skool brush and roll guy.
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Was talking to a friend a while guy, this guys older than Bill but it was fun talking to him. He was telling me when the rollers 1st came out all the painters thought it was a gimmick like the diy'er tools. He said It took along time for them to catch on. They believed it didn't apply enough paint on the wall as a brush would. At least that's what he told me.
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Was talking to a friend a while guy, this guys older than Bill but it was fun talking to him. He was telling me when the rollers 1st came out all the painters thought it was a gimmick like the diy'er tools. He said It took along time for them to catch on. They believed it didn't apply enough paint on the wall as a brush would. At least that's what he told me.
lol you freakin hacks using rollers.
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The guy I was talking about mentioned how everyone thought the roller was going to put all the painters out of business.
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At 51, I don't consider myself an old timer. Maybe it's because I consider myself a perpetual student. Especially considering how many painters are out there, young and old, who've been there and done that.

Frankly, I think that being naive keeps me young.
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Spraying production units, with no respirator and a cig hanging out of their mouth.
I've done that.
What an idiot (I used to be).

Brushing out entire rooms...those musta been the days!
I'd agree that rollers and hand-maskers are "needed".

I worked with an old Russian painter who used his (Russian) set of round brushes. Some of them were huge...maybe 6 or 7".
He got fired for not being able to cut a strait line.

I still do lots of rolling. The muscles in my neck are about the only ones I have left.
Too bad chicks don't really dig neck-muscles anymore.
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The guy I worked for and who taught me everything is retired and living comfortable a nice ranch home with his wife... its nice to fade and not burn out!

And he was not some big shot, big company, crunching numbers or systems, bitchin about illegals etc.... He worked hard saved his money and retired plain and simple. The way he and my grandfather (a successful general) lived inspired me to do the same. Which is working out so far only 25 years to go.
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The guy I was talking about mentioned how everyone thought the roller was going to put all the painters out of business.
Here in Chicago, I've been told that the union fought the use of the roller when it first came out. The said it would put to many guys out of work......
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Here in Chicago, I've been told that the union fought the use of the roller when it first came out. The said it would put to many guys out of work......

Yeah the guy I worked for was union guy and told me those types of stories all the time.
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Ya know, it warn't that long ago (in Archibald years) that the established painters insisted on brushing out rooms. I can still hear them, "It works the paint into the surface - ya get better adhesion". Seriously that was only back in the early 70's.

Now, that's what my contemporaries say about rollers vs blow and go.

Unfortunately, as I noted recently, "old school" seems to mean no RRP adherence, no waterborne coatings, no internet, no keeping up with what is being developed and learned. "Old school" is becoming to mean "out of touch"



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I don't really consider myself old-school.

But I'm certainly not cutting-edge either.

I learn new things (a lot here so far) all the time.
Problem is, when and where to implement them.

Whos house (for example) do I decide to try acrylic/alkyd on?
Mine? My house is like the cobblers children!

Next time I can spray BIN...will I try what I've learned here, or just grab my roller?

I'm more of a "stick with what I know, cuz I'm pretty sure it won't bite me in the ass" kinda guy.

..and it seems like the older I get, the more I'm like that.
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All day at work yesterday...I wondered who was flaming me here for my last reply.

...and all I got was a thanks from Wolf?

I need a blackberry or something.
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