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Old 02-26-2015, 10:17 AM   #81
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Actually, I didn't consider that a lot of the arguments here are driven by the language of the contest requirements. And if we are to follow the rules, as PT has determined them to be, then it is reasonable for critics of the program to question the nomination process.

But frankly, who really believes that a member is nominated purely on their knowledge, experience, and business proclivity? Maybe the Administrators should include "humility" in the contest language, because I believe that humility is an understated value that's certainly recognized by most of the voting membership.

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I have a question, how are we increasing the value of Paint Talk by eliminating the contest, and will it make the membership provided content any better?

Are we suddenly going to receive a flood of knowledge and trade secrets from those who have been holding out because of their dissapointment with the forum's dynamics? I don't think so.
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I vote 'NO'. Pick a charity and give the money to it. Perhaps a Veteran's group, just not Wounded Warriors.

Off topic, somewhat: guess how many Grammy's that Led Zeppelin, The Who, Jimi Hendrix and Chuck Berry have combined
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Is this a real thread? I'm starting to think you guy and gals are messing with me.

Everyone's expectations are WAY to high. We're a bunch of painters! We got Mods trying to keep order, Admins trying to negotiate...with painters!

Do you know any painters beside yourself? You know, that dirty long haired guy at the paint store every morning. He's always asking stupid questions. I can't stand painters! They are some of the worst people in our society.

And here you are...trying to reason with them!
I logged in just to thank your post.

Not that it matters since I'm not around much anymore, but I did just was suggested to the members. I participated in the first go around and after that realized how silly I thought it all was. So I stopped participating. I could care less about who wins what.
I used to come here for good advice and guidance. The same few people would routinely answer me or help me out. I guess it follows that few people 'deserve' to be nominated,much less win.

And Eprotet, I refuse to believe you were banned,lol.
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Actually, I didn't consider that a lot of the arguments here are driven by the language of the contest requirements. And if we are to follow the rules, as PT has determined them to be, then it is reasonable for critics of the program to question the nomination process.

But frankly, who really believes that a member is nominated purely on their knowledge, experience, and business proclivity? Maybe the Administrators should include "humility" in the contest language, because I believe that humility is an understated value that's certainly recognized by most of the voting membership.
Quoted (highlighted) for truth.

I think that, the more a poster insists on his skills, the less inclined the membership is to believe it.
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Maybe we should do like grade school ...

Everybody's a winner mentality

Take the money and divide it by how many posted and everyone gets a trophy and a badge with their name on it that way no one get their feelings hurt

here little billy "your a winner"

omg people it's a free website giving away free money
don't like it don't post ... don't vote ...

i don't know how this thread got started but it's made me double think about this site

now i am starting to see why the general public thinks the way they do about painters
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It's actually fun to participate in this argument because the premise is absurd.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but I know damn well I'll never win a contest here, again, after surviving the first PPOTM human test study. And you will never see me complain that its unfair to offer larger stakes then when I participated as a candidate.

And the reason I don't let these trivial events on a free internet site affect me, is because I won't allow an artificial social structure to determine who I am as a real person. Maybe its because I'm fifty five years old and was fortunate enough to have lived through a time when character was built by accountability and not anonymity. A time where logging off from your social responsibilities was not an option.
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Maybe we should do like grade school ... Everybody's a winner mentality
Maybe we should have a contest that puts "ALL" members in a fair position to win. Right now, post count, favoritism and seniority are the key requirements to win, by a panel of their buddies. I can literally pick the next 6 winners in advance; daArch, Strait Lines, RH, DeanV, George Z, CDpainting. And the criteria to win is baseless.

You do realize, if a school had a talent contest, and the panel of judges happen to be several of the contestants parents, and by coincidence, the judges kids won the contest, there would be an uproar within the parents who's kids lost? My point to the above paragraph is, judges need to be a neutral party to be fair. On PT, that is not the case.

Even in a court of law, the judge an jury can not "know the litigants", in any way shape or form. That is to ensure that the case is judged fairly, without a bias for either party. Lets do the same on PT.
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Seriously y'all?

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I am going to clarify what this thread is for, one more time.

1. Vote if you would like to keep the Paint Pro of The Quarter Program. Yes or No.

2. If you would prefer not to have the Paint Pro of the Quarter program, then feel free to offer an alternative idea for some contests or giveaways.
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Seriously y'all?
Are we going a little overboard on the dialogue?
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Are we going a little overboard on the dialogue?
Do professional painters participate here ???



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Yes, believe it or not, I really do listen to you and now I am asking for your help in making a decision about our Paint Pro of the Quarter program, following the end of the current quarter.

Should we keep it as is? (I am not going to change it back to monthly.)

Or, should we give up the program completely and give away some tools or gift cards monthly or bi-monthly based on some other criteria
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If so, what criteria should we have for the contest?

Some possible ideas (feel free to add your own)

  • Ask a question in the forum, such as "What tips would you offer someone getting started?" and we put all sincere responses into a random drawing for a prize.
  • We start a thread with pictures of your current jobs (or work vehicles, wraps, etc) and have a random drawing for the winner.
This is your chance to tell me what you would like....

I'm sorry Cricket, but I really think this initial post, complete with a graphic displaying the word 'feedback', is not in line with what you ,perhaps ,were really asking. Since you started by asking for 'feedback", asking for ideas for contests or criteria, it befuddles me why you are surprised that you got just that. You even asked for ideas of our own.

At least, that's how this came across when I read it. And I'm not a dumb painter, just a fake painter.
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Do professional painters participate here ???
You have to admit, this is more stimulating then discussing snow banks and window sashes. And it has nothing to do with painting! Imagine that.
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I'm sorry Cricket, but I really think this initial post, complete with a graphic displaying the word 'feedback', is not in line with what you ,perhaps ,were really asking. Since you started by asking for 'feedback", asking for ideas for contests or criteria, it befuddles me why you are surprised that you got just that. You even asked for ideas of our own.

At least, that's how this came across when I read it. And I'm not a dumb painter, just a fake painter.
Yes, I understand that, which is why I have attempted to clarify it several times now. I DO WANT FEEDBACK for alternative ideas for OTHER contests we can have in the community if we choose NOT to continue the Paint Pro of the Quarter program.
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I think that, the more a poster insists on his skills, the less inclined the membership is to believe it.
you never heard steve or me boasting about our skills
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Yes, I understand that, which is why I have attempted to clarify it several times now. I DO WANT FEEDBACK for alternative ideas for OTHER contests we can have in the community if we choose NOT to continue the Paint Pro of the Quarter program.
You know someone's going to suggest a BAN contest if you leave that door open.

If I were responsible for creating a community contest where rewards could be meted out equally to all members over a period of time, it would have to cover the following;

1.) A reasonable number of participants. For example 100 rewards for every one thousand members

2.) Manageable and fixed reward amount that can be budgeted annually for the number of participants determined in line (1).

3.) Only one reward per participant during the predetermined cycle of the contest.

4.) Sufficient number of heats to process the number of participants determined in line (1).

5.) A possible final contest with larger reward for the winner of the final top five positions given the contest allows for that.

As far as what the contest should be, I'd offer the following;

1.)
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It called controlled discussions. Say what I want you to say and nothing more.
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It called controlled discussions. Say what I want you to say and nothing more.
You can certainly choose not to participate in brainstorming for other ideas. You can also choose not to participate in any of our giveaways if you do not want to, that is your choice, but I am going to respectfully request that you stop derailing this thread just to complain.
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You can certainly choose not to participate in brainstorming for other ideas. You can also choose not to participate in any of our giveaways if you do not want to, that is your choice, but I am going to respectfully request that you stop derailing this thread just to complain.
Sorry cricket, im just confused, some of my post were moved when i had a simple question like CA question bellow. Others were kept that were just as off topic as mine was considered. Only difference was those kept were pro, the ones moved were con. Im not much into the politics of PT like I have been in the past. I really don't care if the program stays or go, I felt I was giving constructive ideas in a respectful manner. I will try my best to abide by your request in your future thread and use discretion in my posting.

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I have a question, how are we increasing the value of Paint Talk by eliminating the contest, and will it make the membership provided content any better?

Are we suddenly going to receive a flood of knowledge and trade secrets from those who have been holding out because of their dissapointment with the forum's dynamics? I don't think so.
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[QUOTE=PaintersUnite;677745]Maybe we should have a contest that puts "ALL" members in a fair position to win. Right now, post count, favoritism and seniority are the key requirements to win, by a panel of their buddies. I can literally pick the next 6 winners in advance; daArch, Strait Lines, RH, DeanV, George Z, CDpainting. And the criteria to win is baseless.

You do realize, if a school had a talent contest, and the panel of judges happen to be several of the contestants parents, and by coincidence, the judges kids won the contest, there would be an uproar within the parents who's kids lost? My point to the above paragraph is, judges need to be a neutral party to be fair. On PT, that is not the case.

Even in a court of law, the judge an jury can not "know the litigants", in any way shape or form. That is to ensure that the case is judged fairly, without a bias for either party. Lets do the same on PT.[/ ]

no way, cd is just a kid
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