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Old 09-17-2011, 01:31 AM   #1
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Cool Where From Here?

Well John made some indictments tonight on the current PT climate...

Are we the PT we want to be?

Where do we go from here?
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Old 09-17-2011, 09:00 AM   #2
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TJ,

I assume you are referring to the headphone vs hardy plank threads.

PT is a diverse community whose members have many interests. That's a good thing. No one is forced to read or to participate in any thread.

In the past there have been complaints that there is not enough "business" topics that it's too much about application and favorite tools. Now John poked a little fun at an OT topic getting more responses than a technical subject. I thought it was quite humorous. But if anyone is really upset that a lot of people will discuss music, sports, wedding pics, etc then I remind them again, no one forces anyone to participate in OT threads.

The technical, business, marketing, etc subjects are NOT being ignored nor is membership dwindling because of the OT stuff. As a matter of fact, it would be difficult to convince me that these OT threads do not enhance the PT experience for many and keep them coming back.

Where do we go from here? I say stay the course.



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Maybe it's time to ask some of the "screw-offs" to leave?

*slightly disgusted by them anyhow*
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Maybe it's time to ask some of the "screw-offs" to leave?

*slightly disgusted by them anyhow*
does that mean you and I have to start our own private forum? Sorta like solitary confinement together ?



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does that mean you and I have to start our own private forum? Sorta like solitary confinement together ?
Sounds ok to me!

You're a contributor, daArch. Seriously..don't but yourself in the same boat as me.

It's leaky, and I'm bailing as fast as I can already.
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I'm going to Home Depot, I hope I'll get to work today.
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Sounds ok to me!

You're a contributor, daArch. Seriously..don't but yourself in the same boat as me.

It's leaky, and I'm bailing as fast as I can already.
I'll lend you my "water letter outer". A trick I learned from Curly:

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I think about 5 people that are already here (and I'm sure they know who they are)..

could easily answer every single serious painting question that got posted on the board.

So why are the rest of us even here?
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I can't speak for anyone but myself.

I'm bored to tears and need the distraction.



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I can't speak for anyone but myself.

I'm bored to tears and need the distraction.

There's some guy desperate to talk environment issues.
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I'm bored to tears and need the distraction.
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*can finally quit waiting on the perfect reply*
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There's some guy desperate to talk environment issues.
Yeah, I saw him too...but the environment isn't a joking matter, so I didn't have anything to say.
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We're too big to fail
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So was Solyndra
A half billion dollar government loan to a failing company so they wouldn't have to lay off 1,000 workers. Only to have the company lay off 1,100 workers. Whatever it takes to promote the economic stimulus law's job creation program. It's important to keep these geniuses in office to realize chainge.
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A half billion dollar government loan to a failing company so they wouldn't have to lay off 1,000 workers. Only to have the company lay off 1,100 workers. Whatever it takes to promote the economic stimulus law's job creation program. It's important to keep these geniuses in office to realize chainge.
Guess it gives "The Terminator" a whole new meaning.
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Nothing but a larger, more Google intensified version of what it always was. Perhaps a bit more carbonated but with more of a challenge to identify the flavor. Its important to keep the bottom of the barrell stirred. And I thank Johnpaint and others for that.

I read with great interest Johnpaints post. John is a cranky old school craftsman. Like most of us. So, I always listen to what he has to say.

Guys, more change has happened in the paint industry in the past 7 years than in the previous 70. Painttalk is a big fat reflection of that. It must be incredibly difficult for non member viewers to make any sense of our industry looking through this window.

We all have our markets and the "types" of work that we do. And we are mostly all looking for the same thing: survival and profitability (whatever that means to everyone in the room).

To me, it all comes down to lawn mowing. There is no one on the planet who can mow my lawn as efficiently or pretty as I do. Thats because I have been mowing it once a week for 9 years. If there was an Olympics in this, I would podium every time.

Everyone elses lawn is the same, if they are into mowing it. Some dont bother. Some hire it out. Some do it when they have time.

Here on painttalk, you go from the thread where someone is doing something that appears to be absurd. Next thread over, Dean is about to smash his ipad, and RCP is about to hit "publish" and put out some syndication horsepower.

It is must watch tv, and some of us have been watching for 4-5 years. We've all gotten past the "Oh my God, we cant let the world think that one coat of Acme Exterior semi gloss on their new bathroom walls is going to be a good idea." But, its already been done. Time has a funny way of showing what worked and what didn't. And we can't control what people think anyway, no matter what we say.

So, painttalk becomes a stream of consciousness and oddness when you dump it all in such a large, highly visible pool. The splashes are bigger.

The painting trade is misunderstood by everyone who is not in it. Painttalk is here to help.

And for the record, I do not wear headphones when I work, but I salute those who do.



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Well as long as we are getting political, I like Starbucks' pres Shultz saying to clean them ALL out and start anew.

And last night's CBS poll sowed that voters on BOTH sides are tired of BOTH sides. Both parties have approval rating of 28% and 19% (let's not even get into which party got what, it's absolutely inconsequential).

As many have been saying, it's NOT the Repubs OR the Dems, it's BOTH of them.

This has gotten to be some serious sh!t where none of the children in DC can come to ANY agreement and do SOMETHING that benefits the COUNTRY. All they think about is bringing tax dollars into their own district to get themselves elected.

AND please don't no one defend THEIR representative or THEIR party, they are ALL just as guilty as the next. We all need to disavow our party loyalties if we want this fixed. We need congress critters who have the well being of the COUNTRY as their primary interest.

If we were to have a political section, I wish that we could work on how to get beyond partisan politics and discuss how to fix a system that is terribly broken.

Again, please no party debates, let's look at the WHOLE picture.



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Scott,

Is that the long version of, "If you ask three painting contractors the same question, you will get five different (and correct) answers"

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