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Old 06-07-2008, 08:54 AM   #41
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40 this year. I too started around 14. I have come to realize that its not how old you are or how many years you have been painting that really matters. Its talent and the quality of your experience. I've had a brush in hand for 26 years. Only the past 13 of those have been my true education on proper high level finishing. The first 13 were just a kid with a brush making money. I have painters now in the 5-10 year experience range who are light years ahead of where I was at that level. I've also had painters in the 5-10 range that were not very good. Talent and quality of experience is how I have found the best fitting candidates for my crew. Now I get a thrill out of seeing an apprentice become productive in 3-6 months. When you surround an apprentice with good talent its fun to watch them get it.



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Old 06-10-2008, 01:55 PM   #42
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I personally have never used an 18. All the ones I have seen seem cheap and I think that I can get just about as much paint out of my purdy colluses 3/4" 9. Another reason is the ease of cleaning, paint directly out of a 5, when done pour out paint, pour in water can sit for days until ready to take outside and water hose clean. How do you guys clean your rollers? I put mine on the stick and use the bucket as a teeter toter and spray it with a water hose, spins clean in 1 min easy. Charlie
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I have a clear plastic tube, (looks like a bong) that an 18" slides into. A cap screws over that and seals the ends. Then I just screw the hose into the cap, turn on the facet and water is forced through the nap and out the end. 3-5 minutes later you have a clean 18" sleeve.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:24 PM   #44
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for those who clean sleeves truely how many applications are you getting out of it before its no good? I know lambs will last longer but I am talking synthetics... Super fabs, Pro DooZ, Purdys white dove or Colossus etc..
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Mine is something like this.

http://www.rejuv-a-roller.com/index2.html
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All this talk of 18's, doesn't anybody use a power roller?? I use one made by graco,it has an extension handle, it hooks right to my airless. Its a 9". I had a 12" made by wagner in the mid eighties, but it finally gave up the ghost and they don't make it anymore, so the only one I could find was the 9" by graco. I prefer it over any other type of roller as it eliminates the time spent going back and forth to the bucket/pan. It feeds paint as you want it, so you just roll on. Its faster than an 18", gives you better control since the paint flo is even all the time (eliminates the spread than even out factor), and gets right up to the corner which an 18 won't do. And the wieght thing is not a factor. As for cleaning, I use one of those plastic rings that hooks to a garden hose(even comes with a free 5 in one at Slowes), works great and throughly cleans the roller cover out.

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for those who clean sleeves truely how many applications are you getting out of it before its no good? I know lambs will last longer but I am talking synthetics... Super fabs, Pro DooZ, Purdys white dove or Colossus etc..
I've never had much luck cleaning naps and getting quality reuse out of them. I guess I am not a good nap cleaner. The part I never understood was why I would spend a half hour cleaning a $3 item. Even if it is the more expensive 18", is it cost effective to clean something that will not yield a 100% quality reuse?



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I've never had much luck cleaning naps and getting quality reuse out of them. I guess I am not a good nap cleaner. The part I never understood was why I would spend a half hour cleaning a $3 item. Even if it is the more expensive 18", is it cost effective to clean something that will not yield a 100% quality reuse?

Thats kind of what I was saying also I buy my rollers in bulk usually once a year. And is all that latex running down the drain is good? a dry up roller sitting in the land fill? hmm not sure which is better or worse...
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I've never had much luck cleaning naps and getting quality reuse out of them. I guess I am not a good nap cleaner. The part I never understood was why I would spend a half hour cleaning a $3 item. Even if it is the more expensive 18", is it cost effective to clean something that will not yield a 100% quality reuse?
The purdy collesous is actually much better once washed and used again and they are around $8 a peice. Like I said before it takes around a 1-2 minuites to clean out. As long as you keep them soaked in water you can clean them whenever you want. I wait till I have 3-4 too clean at once. I do understand the whole its not worth cleaning things if it takes to long and I will not clean out an oil brush. I can probably use a roller for several months as long as it is not used on a rough surface like brick or stucco.
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whoa!!! u dont clean out your oil brush. dang, i even clean out my yachtsmans. i dont know, im weird, i become attached to my brushes after a couple days of use.
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i use those rings that hook up to a hose, (its just a cheap DIY'er product, but it works great) totally clean in about a minute. I made one that I can hook up to any utility sink inside too. Just put together a dog showering thing from my home center, cut the shower end off, put in a barbed hose to 3/4 inch thread adaptor with a T clamp, screw my roller cleaner onto that.
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whoa!!! u dont clean out your oil brush...

Oil-brushes don't have to be cleaned out every time.. My oil-brush loves me --I dress her in a nice crispy paper dress, provide her with plenty of thinner to drink whenever she's thirsty, and let her ride with me in the van every day.. She's always clean, nice and soft when needed --just undress her and give her a little spin...

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Like them. Always use them on large, high-ceiling areas such as foyer, living room... They excel in such areas ---time- and application-wise (faster, easier, more uniform sheen [particularly satin/eggshell], etc). The only drawback is of course the weight, which seems not to be a problem after getting used to it. Not recommended for plaster walls in older homes --these are, unlike drywalls, not perfectly even.

Using a 9" roller on larger walls is like 2" brush on the doors, methinks, which takes longer a time.. I once ran out of 18" cover, and decided to use two 9" covers instead (firmly connected internally by a piece of plastic taken from a 9" roller frame). It worked.
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Is someone getting a little crampy around here?
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""Oil-brushes don't have to be cleaned out every time.. My oil-brush loves me --I dress her in a nice crispy paper dress, provide her with plenty of thinner to drink whenever she's thirsty, and let her ride with me in the van every day.. She's always clean, nice and soft when needed --just undress her and give her a little spin... ""
yeah i guess ur right. i dont use mine often so i just go ahead and clean it out real good.
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I've never had much luck cleaning naps and getting quality reuse out of them. I guess I am not a good nap cleaner. The part I never understood was why I would spend a half hour cleaning a $3 item. Even if it is the more expensive 18", is it cost effective to clean something that will not yield a 100% quality reuse?
I clean them (not my employees) because it saves a couple of dollars and we don't use cheap pads. Just commited to cutting tool and material costs this year and this is one way. (Of course gas prices are taking up the savings)
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one every interior new construction i use 18" naps, clean them at the end of the day, i put them on a pole extend it and spray it with the hose so it spins all the paint out, good lambswool naps are better used, i have 2 that ive used for over a year, if you clean them out well they last forever.
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Using 18s are the only way to roll unless youre doing a bath room or a cut up kitchen ie small area. At $9.50 a pop I actually just chuck the sucker after doing an average 12x14 room. At labor of $40 an hour it easily pays for itself not to mention most of my clients have expensive landscapes and it makes a mess and takes at least fifteen minutes even after raking dry with a five.
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Get yourself a wheelbarrow, pour in a fiver of paint and use this to roll out of with your double size roller. Coat the inside with the stuff you put on spray booth walls for easy stripping when the wheelbarrow gets too thick with dried paint.
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