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Old 09-11-2020, 07:53 AM   #1
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I'm curious what tips and sizes you guys are using with different products and jobs? I've been looking into the Titan HEA tips for exteriors to cut down on overspray. Is anyone else using these?

What about spraying Waterborne products like the Cabinet Coat and Advance? Anyone using Fine Finish tips? Graco or Titan? What size?

What are you using for Alkyds? Lacquers?
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Old 09-11-2020, 08:59 AM   #2
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For advance and cabinet coat, I've been using Tritech 309 and 209's.

I like 412's for exterior. with that fine of a spray, overspray isnt an issue. It turns to dust too fast.

I like 410/411s for lacquer (for Doors. 311 for trim boards) . I havent really noticed a huge difference with fflp's, but I'll still use them. Im sold on the Tritech though, so I havent bought a tip at a store in a couple years.
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I use 517 or 519 for most exteriors around here, lots of siding and the fan of those sizes works well. For wide open areas,usually interiors I use a 1225. Have never used any of the BM products so can't say anything about tips for them. Don't spray oil or lacquer anymore because they are disgusting but when I did i used a 311 or a 411. Still use those sizes for water base poly.
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Exterior repaints with horizontal siding, I'm using a 313. It's like a little lazer beam painter.

Large commercial steel or concrete buildings are getting the largest tip whichever sprayer I'm using will run, or generally a 615 or 617 with a small sprayer. Same for new construction primer and ceilings.

Trim is usually a 211 or a 212FF. I can't tell much of a difference between the FF and regular at small fan sizes using acylics.

I've occasionally used a 310ff for exterior oil stains on cedar. Seems to atomize better at lower pressure, which is supposedly the point of the FF tips, but is hit or miss when using regular acrylics.
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I'm curious what tips and sizes you guys are using with different products and jobs? I've been looking into the Titan HEA tips for exteriors to cut down on overspray. Is anyone else using these?

What about spraying Waterborne products like the Cabinet Coat and Advance? Anyone using Fine Finish tips? Graco or Titan? What size?

What are you using for Alkyds? Lacquers?

The titan hea tips throw out bigger drops off paint, less atomization, so they kind of overspray worse if you're not close and you have to move the gun faster. I used a 515 hea several times. They can leave an .orange peel effect if you don't move quick.



I'd stick with standard titan 515 or graco 515 rac X for exterior.
Cabinets and trim get a 310 or 410 treatment.
Titan 410ff - 1800- 2000 psi
Graco fflp -:1350 psi
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Little background, been painting for a lot of different companies, using what I like that they provide for me. Staring my own biz in the near future, I will be doing a lot more research!
So far, I have a quiver of 5 tips. All graco LP tips. I swap them depending on size of substrate. 515, 414 for exterior walls. 308 for anything that I use a shield on ext, and interior trim. We do have a tritech 410 that is WAY better and the only tip I use on doors. For priming inside, 517 graco blue tip. You could also add a 515 blue to ext walls if time is more important than finish product.
I think making sure the guard inserts, tips and gun filters all line up is important.
I also use them for oil, latex, acrylic, poly, lacquer... just always clean properly.

I will in the future be swapping over completely to tritech, getting tips that are similar in fan widths.
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For you guys who use Tritech I'm finding they require way more pressure vs graco fflp in the same size. I spray BM scuffx with a graco fflp 210 at 1600 psi and the tritech 210 needs 2200psi in order not to tail.

Is that common with the tritech tips?
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For you guys who use Tritech I'm finding they require way more pressure vs graco fflp in the same size. I spray BM scuffx with a graco fflp 210 at 1600 psi and the tritech 210 needs 2200psi in order not to tail.

Is that common with the tritech tips?

Try 212 tritech.. supposed to be closer in size to graco 210.
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For larger new construction i like a 12-23 and for smaller jobs a 7-17. For doors i have had good luck with a 6-16fflp and a 2-12fflp for trim and drop to a 2-10fflp/2-9fflp for oil. The last doors i finished with scuff-ex eggshell i used the 2-16fflp and a 2-12fflp(full lite glass) and my pressure was at 850psi. with no fingering....nice....have some tri-tec tips to try and will see!! On exterior i have used 5-14ff for just spray and 3-19( just to get the paint loaded to brush and no masking) But i am old school and like to brush in and get those under edges
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Usually 315 for drywall walls and ceilings. 417 for metal decks. I know a lot of guys prefer bigger tips, but when you're the one paying for the paint, it's hard to go above 417 with open-web joists.

I'm going to be picking up a 310 FF tip and experimenting with my bathroom cabinet doors. Hopefully it goes well.
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Usually 315 for drywall walls and ceilings. 417 for metal decks. I know a lot of guys prefer bigger tips, but when you're the one paying for the paint, it's hard to go above 417 with open-web joists.

I'm going to be picking up a 310 FF tip and experimenting with my bathroom cabinet doors. Hopefully it goes well.
Really a 315 for drywall? Why even bother to spray?

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Lol yep. I inherited the pump when my dad retired and he had a stash of about 30 tips, almost all 315s. All brand new. Must have been on sale 😛
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Lol yep. I inherited the pump when my dad retired and he had a stash of about 30 tips, almost all 315s. All brand new. Must have been on sale 😛

Seems like you would be better served by one of those spray roller systems. Gonna be there until next march with a 315
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The last doors i finished with scuff-ex eggshell i used the 2-16fflp and a 2-12fflp(full lite glass) and my pressure was at 850psi.
216 thatís a lot of paint for such a small fan.
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The last doors i finished with scuff-ex eggshell i used the 2-16fflp and a 2-12fflp(full lite glass) and my pressure was at 850psi.
216 that’s a lot of paint for such a small fan.
I've never seen a 216 in the wild, but i live a sheltered life here in the mountains.

12xx tips are monsters and don't really suit the type of work we do. 6xx are my production sweet spot, but i will admit that I'm not in the same hurry as I used to be.

Probably a combination of getting older and charging more. I also relentlessly rent boom lifts on 2 story residential projects, if at all possible with the terrain.

Different strokes and all.

If I were to buy a limited quantity of tips right now, I'd have a 311, 313, 315, 515 and 517. That'll do 95% of everything reasonably well.
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216 thatís a lot of paint for such a small fan.
honestly a 216 on doors. Sounds like a lazer beam. For all my fine finish work using Advance etc. I use exlusively a 308fflp or 310fflp. For a door maybe a 413.
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