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Old 12-12-2015, 10:46 AM   #21
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I did a little experiment with this. I took some Redseal exterior satin mis-tint that I had, and a medium gray color. I did a brush out on a piece of glass with some with no alcohol and some with a 10% reduction with alcohol. (I used iso-propyl alcohol. I assumed that was what the op was talking about for some reason.) I kept the glass outside over night before i painted it and painted it quickly before it had a chance to warm up. The day i painted it was around 35-38 degrees and it had been in the upper twenties the night I left it outside. It has been 55-65 during the day and above 45 or so at night since then.

There is already some interesting variables between the two brush-outs. The one with the alcohol has much more bubbling evident, and it seems to have attracted quite a bit more dust or dirt for some reason. These brushouts are on the same piece of 18" wide glass so they are right next to each other. They were also behind my A/C unit so there was no great amount of exposure to any cars driving behind my store.

The most noticeable thing is there is a very big difference in how hard the two paint films have gotten in this short period of time. The alcohol seems to very much have an adverse effect on the short term cure properties of this particular paint.
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:16 PM   #22
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I did a little experiment with this. I took some Redseal exterior satin mis-tint that I had, and a medium gray color. I did a brush out on a piece of glass with some with no alcohol and some with a 10% reduction with alcohol. (I used iso-propyl alcohol. I assumed that was what the op was talking about for some reason.) I kept the glass outside over night before i painted it and painted it quickly before it had a chance to warm up. The day i painted it was around 35-38 degrees and it had been in the upper twenties the night I left it outside. It has been 55-65 during the day and above 45 or so at night since then.

There is already some interesting variables between the two brush-outs. The one with the alcohol has much more bubbling evident, and it seems to have attracted quite a bit more dust or dirt for some reason. These brushouts are on the same piece of 18" wide glass so they are right next to each other. They were also behind my A/C unit so there was no great amount of exposure to any cars driving behind my store.

The most noticeable thing is there is a very big difference in how hard the two paint films have gotten in this short period of time. The alcohol seems to very much have an adverse effect on the short term cure properties of this particular paint.

Interesting. I would of thought the OP was referring to denatured alcohol though.
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If I gotta do exterior work in crappy conditions I tell the ho straight up "I'll guarantee this will fail in about 2 years. And I'll guarantee it in writing." If they still want it done, no problem! Just go get your checkbook and I'll get to work! ya gotta do what ya gotta do. And it definitely breaks down the paint.makes it more brittle. it causes the water to evaporate quickly rather than actually drying and curing. Which is why it doesn't freeze. It just evaporates. I'm no scientist, I just know it works in a pinch.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:57 PM   #24
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The "Old Timers" remedy in my neck of the woods for bee stings is tobacco. They would take a pinch out of a cigarette, spit on it, and put it on the sting.
Not many jellyfish around here so I can't speak to that......
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I wonder what would happen if ya threw some vodka in it...? Lol
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