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Old 07-08-2011, 07:34 PM   #21
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I just painted a Wal Mart and they use all low voc on the inside SW Pro-Green 200 awesome stuff when it's fresh needs a little water to flow off a brush . Smells like Elmers school glue and thickens up to the same consistency as it if you don't work at a decent pace or keep watering your paint .my biggest complaint is using it the next night be prepared to strain it because it boogers up like nothing I've ever seen!
We are using all pro green this summer on schools. Every five is full of chunks and goobers. It is semi gloss. I dont know if the stuff just sits around forever or what, but I havent found a five that doesnt need strained up to this point.
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We are using all pro green this summer on schools. Every five is full of chunks and goobers. It is semi gloss. I dont know if the stuff just sits around forever or what, but I havent found a five that doesnt need strained up to this point.
Ya ours seemed pretty fresh of course I ordered 600 gallons and it was eggshell.I'm sure most of the issues come with the sheen.the only color that didn't cover like a glove was yellow .every other color I used including the dreaded wal mart blue went on great
I also used the precatalyst water born epoxy and was quite impressed with it too
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Trying this or that, sure.
Must have used over 3-4 thousands of gallons of Ecospec or Natura paints
in the last few years.
First of all, Ecospec and Natura are the only zero VOC.
You can't use a tinting base without colourants unless white

So really, unless white...
1. Natura
2. Ecospec
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We have been trialling Mythic eco paint for a few months now, and their system delivers pretty much everything we expect, from high adhesion primer to interior and exterior finishes, high obliteration, any colours, and even with floppy polar bear sleeves cant spatter (exterior satin finish on horrible UK summer days). Cant find much wrong with it, even the colourants are no VOC. It ticks boxes for nth degree eco maniacs and picky painters. dont ask me about price, my UK to US gallons to litres converter blew up trying to work out unit prices.
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Trying this or that, sure.
Must have used over 3-4 thousands of gallons of Ecospec or Natura paints
in the last few years.
First of all, Ecospec and Natura are the only zero VOC.
You can't use a tinting base without colourants unless white

So really, unless white...
1. Natura
2. Ecospec
Dulux lifemaster id zero voc as well
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[QUOTE=straight_lines;228055]Yea Eco is a grade around super spec. Close to the low end of the BM quality grade, the flats in white are ok. Haven't used any deeps or ultra deep. Don't know if they even make them.

The semi gloss is crap imo very translucent, and I wouldn't use it again by choice.[/QUOT


I just used ecospec yesterday and I had zero problem with it...Almost no smell and it covered great..I used a mid-based cream colour and a very dark brown which had to be a deep base....I'd certainly use it again...I've never used it in a white so I can't comment on Gabe's problem with it....That said I have no idea how washable it is.

My favourite low voc paint is "Lifemaster" eggshell from ICI..It has a great low sheen look and is very washable...Almost no smell as well....I use it as often as I can...Oh,it's also half the cost of Natura.
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Ya ours seemed pretty fresh of course I ordered 600 gallons and it was eggshell.I'm sure most of the issues come with the sheen.the only color that didn't cover like a glove was yellow .every other color I used including the dreaded wal mart blue went on great
I also used the precatalyst water born epoxy and was quite impressed with it too
What did you use the precat on? Was it a dark color? It's the most impressive paint I have used from SW for covering. It touches up better than any paint they offer also.
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What did you use the precat on? Was it a dark color? It's the most impressive paint I have used from SW for covering. It touches up better than any paint they offer also.
All the steel columns were done wight the precat the colors varied from white to black( well almost black the cor is domino has a purple hue to it) and it covered over white with two easy coats most impressed with it.... Only complaint would be the odor! Pure ammonia , takes your breath away
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I just used ecospec yesterday and I had zero problem with it...Almost no smell and it covered great..I used a mid-based cream colour and a very dark brown which had to be a deep base....I'd certainly use it again...I've never used it in a white so I can't comment on Gabe's problem with it....That said I have no idea how washable it is.

My favourite low voc paint is "Lifemaster" eggshell from ICI..It has a great low sheen look and is very washable...Almost no smell as well....I use it as often as I can...Oh,it's also half the cost of Natura.
the snot started blowing and eyes watered when I would spray the crap, it had better coverage when spraying (1-2 coats), as most paints do. When we roll it, takes 3-4 coats right out of the bucket. If It were my 1st paint to try from BM, I would think BM was junk. We have used about 600 gals of it and I will avoid using it in the future.
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All the steel columns were done wight the precat the colors varied from white to black( well almost black the cor is domino has a purple hue to it) and it covered over white with two easy coats most impressed with it.... Only complaint would be the odor! Pure ammonia , takes your breath away
Yea the odor is pretty bad for a latex. I painted my buddies little bathroom with it with the window open and it about killed me. I just painted a gym about a month ago, and I hardly noticed it because it was so wide open.
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I mix some yellow with blue, that seems to make a nice green paint!

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We have been trialling Mythic eco paint for a few months now, and their system delivers pretty much everything we expect, from high adhesion primer to interior and exterior finishes, high obliteration, any colours, and even with floppy polar bear sleeves cant spatter (exterior satin finish on horrible UK summer days). Cant find much wrong with it, even the colourants are no VOC. It ticks boxes for nth degree eco maniacs and picky painters. dont ask me about price, my UK to US gallons to litres converter blew up trying to work out unit prices.
I've been using Mythic here and there. I think it's absolutely excellent paint for all the reasons listed above. Exterior is about $45, primer $50, interior $35.
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Dulux lifemaster id zero voc as well
Maybe it is different now, I have not used it for a while.
But as soon as you add universal colourants it is zero voc any more.
Unless white, you can never use tinting bases without colourants,
so really, it is not.
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Maybe it is different now, I have not used it for a while.
But as soon as you add universal colourants it is zero voc any more.
Unless white, you can never use tinting bases without colourants,
so really, it is not.
One of Mythics many cool little eco features is having zero voc colourants.

Whenever Dulux say zero voc or 2010 compliant, I just think of the dirty great factories producing the rest of their polluting paint ranges.
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Mythic is great stuff. Their American Pride is cheaper and is the same exact formula, it's just priced lower to reach the lower budgeted customers.

The only problem I have with using American Pride is it's location. It's a Pita to travel to SE Portland for it everytime I want to use it... Otherwise, Great coverage for a 0 VOC product.

I tend to use Harmony. The last couple times I have used it, it had great coverage and worked well with the brush.

As for smell, isn't that outside of the purpose of a 0 VOC product? Is it not merely convenience to have a non-smelly paint?
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Jason, one of the selling points to a HO with green paints is the odor. I don't think a HO would be interested if its going to smell just as bad or worse than non-green paint.

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I had lunch with my SW rep and he showed me this kit he had for Harmony. He had two small jars, each with a tablespoon of vinegar. In one was cardstock coated with Harmony, the other plain cardstock. The one with Harmony, you could not smell the vinegar. He explained about the microbials too. A paint that absorbs odor and prevents mildew, who woulda thunk!?
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In my mind the purpose of 0 VOC paint is that it doesn't exude toxic chemicals that other VOC paints do. To me it is not about how it smells as long as it's purpose is successful. Is not the smelly option just the bells and whistles of the product? Or, is the smell in reflection to the amount of VOC's in the product? I am completely aware of the selling point of a non smelly paint, lets continue to try and answer my question/s.
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In my mind the purpose of 0 VOC paint is that it doesn't exude toxic chemicals that other VOC paints do. To me it is not about how it smells as long as it's purpose is successful. Is not the smelly option just the bells and whistles of the product? Or, is the smell in reflection to the amount of VOC's in the product? I am completely aware of the selling point of a non smelly paint, lets continue to try and answer my question/s.
I'm not sure that the normal home owner cares about toxins, as most in the 50's grew up with lead, and they are fine. With all the clientes that I have had that requested "green paint, I have had 1 HO that had concerns about toxic chemicals, all the others concerns is with odor. It's just part of the green thing, no odor, if it has odor, in their mind it is not green. "why did i pay the extra?" To lessen their carbon footprint? that is not what the average homeowner is after. JMO, If i sprayed ecospec in a environment where elderly resided, they would be passing out left and right. Odor is a huge factor of the green paints. JMO
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Odorless doesn't mean it's "green" right? Not that I have smelled an odorless VOC paint... Just say-n...
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