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Old 11-28-2015, 05:33 PM   #1
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Default Arrgg, straight line cutting??

Ugh so tired of this texture. Wish I could just mask and spray!

How do you cutters get a straight line on this junk of a texture??

I threw a new bead of caulk on it because it had none. I think maybe I threw too skinny a bead? :/
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And when I think I get a good line going on the front face of the wall....it's screwed up on the other.

So annoyed right now.
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Heavier caulk bead but keep it narrow.


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Dang. Thats what I thought. Ugh, redo.
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Did you use painter's tape and clear caulk?

For rough textures like that, what I usually do is make sure I've got one of the colors completely filled a little past the corners where the two different colors meet (where you want a straight line). For example, paint the gray a little past the corner, onto the wall you have that brown color. When dry, I then run a piece of painter's tape as straight against the corner as I can (over the gray). Then, run as thick a bead of clear caulk as I need to seal the tape, so none of the other color (brown) can seep behind the tape. Paint the other color and pull the tape immediately after cutting so the caulking cannot dry. That usually gives me a near perfect line.

This technique works for corners or anywhere where two different colors meet. Paint one color. Apply tape to make a straight line. Seal the tape with the same color. For textured walls, also apply clear caulk onto tape to ensure no bleed-through of second color. Paint second color and pull tape immediately.

If you did this and got your results, all I can add is that you didn't put the clear caulk on heavy enough.
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And when I think I get a good line going on the front face of the wall....it's screwed up on the other. So annoyed right now.
What a good illustration though. Of how to what to take into account when running lines. Where is it gonna be most veiwed from?
The same line from two different angles of veiw. The left hand pic shows a perfect line and the right hand shows its flaws. A optical Illusion.
I always make a quick assessment when I'm cutting lines, where is it gonna be most veiwed from?
Cause really? No corners are perfectly square and true. Smooth walls may be more off Really. They just ain't got that jaggedness but they aren't factory square, no. Gotta make em look square, and really you got to lay the bead a little on or a little off of the adjacent wall to do that. And which depends on where u are viewing it from.
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Paint one color. Apply tape to make a straight line. Seal the tape with the same color. For textured walls, also apply clear caulk onto tape to ensure no bleed-through of second color. Paint second color and pull tape immediately.

If you did this and got your results, all I can add is that you didn't put the clear caulk on heavy enough.
Forgot about the tape and caulk technique. I haven't used that in awhile because I've switched everything over to frog tape (green & yellow). That trick should work pretty well for this wall, I'll give it a try.

Only issue is that I don't have the other wall paint. I'll probable just end up painting the other walls as well. Might as well, alrrady started this project. :/
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What a good illustration though. Of how to what to take into account when running lines. Where is it gonna be most veiwed from?
The same line from two different angles of veiw. The left hand pic shows a perfect line and the right hand shows its flaws. A optical Illusion.
Agreed. A lot of times we deal with optical illusions. At least I do.

Texture guys won't do a straight line on windows and we have to draw a straight line on top of the window with caulk so your eye thinks it is straight, etc.
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Texture sucks already!
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With wallpaper on smooth walls and textured ceiling, I run the point of a triangle scraper along the intersection for the length of the ceiling. Makes a smooth groove into which I can trim the paper.

I wonder if the same can be done for your texture wall corner.



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With wallpaper on smooth walls and textured ceiling, I run the point of a triangle scraper along the intersection for the length of the ceiling. Makes a smooth groove into which I can trim the paper.

I wonder if the same can be done for your texture wall corner.
I've seen old-timers use a 16 penny nail to make a slight groove to make cutting in below the ceiling easier (theoretically, anyway).
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I've also seen pencils used as a scribe. Texture is tough cutting in a straight line. So short of masking, spraying, and all the other logistics involved, I'd approach this by overlapping the corner with one color, then move into the corner with a dryer brush with more pressure flattening down the bristle tips. Long quick steady strokes make straighter lines.
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Default Arrgg, straight line cutting??

One obvious but often overlooked point is that folks tend to pull the tape too tight when masking over rough surfaces. Pull it too tight and it won't have the slack to fill the deep voids, and if the tape isn't thoroughly adhered to everything, no amount of caulking will help.

I follow the same guidelines as SPJ when it comes to the tape-caulk, but I think it was eprepot who said he leaves the tape on even after it dries, whereas I pull the tape off while the paint is still wet. Only exception is when multiple coats are needed, in which case I'll score with a blade after final coat has dried.
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It takes a little longer but, sometimes, taping is not the best medicine. If I haven't had too much coffee, I'll free hand hard-to-tape corners and "kill points" in an effort to reduce the aggravation.
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Did you use painter's tape and clear caulk?

For rough textures like that, what I usually do is make sure I've got one of the colors completely filled a little past the corners where the two different colors meet (where you want a straight line). For example, paint the gray a little past the corner, onto the wall you have that brown color. WHEN DRY, I then run a piece of painter's tape as straight against the corner as I can (over the gray). Then, run as thick a bead of clear caulk as I need to seal the tape, so none of the other color (brown) can seep behind the tape. Paint the other color and pull the tape immediately after cutting so the caulking cannot dry. That usually gives me a near perfect line.

This technique works for corners or anywhere where two different colors meet. Paint one color. Apply tape to make a straight line. Seal the tape with the same color. For textured walls, also apply clear caulk onto tape to ensure no bleed-through of second color. Paint second color and pull tape immediately.

If you did this and got your results, all I can add is that you didn't put the clear caulk on heavy enough.
Great explanation.

How long do you wait before taping? Overnight minimum?
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No tape for me. I always over cut my first color just like others have said. On texture you've just got to slow down a little and work it in. Having a good stiff brush helps a lot. Keep in mind where I am over 50% of my interior work is on textured walls.
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Great explanation.

How long do you wait before taping? Overnight minimum?
Yes.
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Jeez that stuff looks awful! Who the hell wants that shat on the wall?

Nice bead of caulk and cut in , wouldn't bother with tape on that
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Ugh so tired of this texture. Wish I could just mask and spray!

How do you cutters get a straight line on this junk of a texture??

I threw a new bead of caulk on it because it had none. I think maybe I threw too skinny a bead? :/
There are three ways that I know of to make the line as straight as tape is taped onto the textured walls. One of them thin calking over the tape the other takes a bit more material and another more time.
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caulking the corners first and letting the caulking dry is best, mentioned was clear caulking which is thinner and may be better some times. Cut in one color and ;lightly tape when dry but get in to the crevices. Some use a clear primer to seal the tape as well to prevent bleeding but most of the time a few touch ups are needed.
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