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Old 05-25-2019, 10:58 PM   #1
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I have not had the opportunity to use Aura that much since I got back into painting in 2013. I know the can says to be careful about ventilation. One of my first jobs using it told me that this is true.

Having said that, the last job I did at Marina Towers in Chicago was Aura for most of the walls. I painted a whole closet that was basically a box canyon, but I did have a 20" fan to help and I did not seem to suffer much from fumes. I may have been remiss in using the fan on the rest of the job and ended up getting a bad summer cold/congestion/whatever it is!

I am wondering if others here have had adverse reactions while using Aura.

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None whatsoever. It does have a slightly sweet smell to it, but I've never had an adverse reaction.
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Painting closets with Aura? someones a moneybags.
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Theres a lot of smelly paints out there. But Aura is the sweetest of them all.
That being said, theres still always a bit of
Off gassing of VOCs. Depending how sensitive you are.
All that aside, I use Aura all the time, and put a little on my cereal from time to time...
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Aura has Zero VOC's. I'm not sure what the issue is here.
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Aura has Zero VOC's. I'm not sure what the issue is here.
Thats a joke right?


Anyway, I dont understand how you use Gardz like its going out of style, but Aura fumes bother you? Thats kinda funny. Cuz I sure as hell think Gardz is the gnarliest waterborne product you can use.
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I used Aura about a year ago now. Really actually overall didn't like the product. I didn't find the fumes bad, but we actually had one gallon straight from the paint store, no time to freeze, etc, with chunks in the gallon. The paint store gave the weird excuse that it wasn't frozen, but with the new zero VOC formulation it started drying before putting it in the can? (what?) We had issues with flashing as well with it. The paint with a really surprising amount of fumes was actually BM 508 ceiling paint. That stuff absolutely reeked. Eye wateringly bad. Weirdly putting Floetrol to the max amount (I think 8oz) made it smell less bad by a lot, as it didn't offgas out so quick. Floetrol technically adds "VOCs" but made the paint smell a lot less. I think all those paints are really high ammonia now, so the ammonia smell is pretty bad.

Also, as I found out on here, VOC isn't about human health, it's about the ozone layer. Acetone is a VOC exempt solvent, for example. So are actually some of the acetates (my sister had some "professional" nail polish with acetates in it and both me and my mother in the house wanted to vomit...)
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Thats a joke right?


Anyway, I dont understand how you use Gardz like its going out of style, but Aura fumes bother you? Thats kinda funny. Cuz I sure as hell think Gardz is the gnarliest waterborne product you can use.
You must be thinking about someone else. I rarely use Gardz. I might use it if the drywall paper is torn and it needs to be sealed before repairs.

I also don't use Aura. I'm not sure where you came up with Aura fumes bothering me either.

What "joke" are you referring to?
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You must be thinking about someone else. I rarely use Gardz. I might use it if the drywall paper is torn and it needs to be sealed before repairs.

I also don't use Aura. I'm not sure where you came up with Aura fumes bothering me either.

What "joke" are you referring to?

He's referring to Futtyos. The joke being that Futtyos loves his Gardz which stinks, but gets bothered by Aura which doesn't really stink.
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We used it quite a lot in the years it first came on the market, no problemo with the smell. As many have said with the amount of Gardz futty uses and he thinks Aura stinks. Gardz is one of the most putrid smelling products on earth!
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You must be thinking about someone else. I rarely use Gardz. I might use it if the drywall paper is torn and it needs to be sealed before repairs.

I also don't use Aura. I'm not sure where you came up with Aura fumes bothering me either.

What "joke" are you referring to?
"Aura has Zero VOC's. I'm not sure what the issue is here."

Thats what I was referring to.
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"Aura has Zero VOC's. I'm not sure what the issue is here."

Thats what I was referring to.


I gave you an out, and instead of apologizing, you double down.

Reading comprehension (or intellectual honesty) is clearly not your strong suit.

I'll give you a hint. It's Futtyos who is the big Gardz fan in here and you mistook him for me.He's worried about the "off gassing" of Aura and I commented that it is a ZERO VOC paint ----so nothing to worry about.

Your comments made absolutely zero sense. I even told you I wasn't the guy. I don't even use Gardz or Aura.

Not one word of this response is accurate:

"Anyway, I dont understand how you use Gardz like its going out of style, but Aura fumes bother you? Thats kinda funny. Cuz I sure as hell think Gardz is the gnarliest waterborne product you can use".

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I used Aura about a year ago now. Really actually overall didn't like the product. I didn't find the fumes bad, but we actually had one gallon straight from the paint store, no time to freeze, etc, with chunks in the gallon. The paint store gave the weird excuse that it wasn't frozen, but with the new zero VOC formulation it started drying before putting it in the can? (what?) We had issues with flashing as well with it. The paint with a really surprising amount of fumes was actually BM 508 ceiling paint. That stuff absolutely reeked. Eye wateringly bad. Weirdly putting Floetrol to the max amount (I think 8oz) made it smell less bad by a lot, as it didn't offgas out so quick. Floetrol technically adds "VOCs" but made the paint smell a lot less. I think all those paints are really high ammonia now, so the ammonia smell is pretty bad.

Also, as I found out on here, VOC isn't about human health, it's about the ozone layer. Acetone is a VOC exempt solvent, for example. So are actually some of the acetates (my sister had some "professional" nail polish with acetates in it and both me and my mother in the house wanted to vomit...)
That really is an issue with the newer zero voc paints. The manufacturer floats a layer of glycol from the factory and depending on where it's shipped then by the time it gets to the store that layer is Disturbed and a skin has formed then it gets shaken and into your paint. I usually try to remove the skin from the lid if I see one but best practice you should always strain zero voc paints. Aura and natura in 5's definitely always strain.

BTW not sure why why you would thin out 508 so much it's already pretty thin but floetrol not compatible with modern paints. Use BM, xim or M1 extender.
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Aura is Low Voc, but not 0 Voc...

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Iím surprised PACman hasnít shared his personal outgassing/flatulence issues on the topic yet..guess he didnít have Chipotle for lunch..
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I gave you an out, and instead of apologizing, you double down.

Reading comprehension (or intellectual honesty) is clearly not your strong suit.

I'll give you a hint. It's Futtyos who is the big Gardz fan in here and you mistook him for me.He's worried about the "off gassing" of Aura and I commented that it is a ZERO VOC paint ----so nothing to worry about.

Your comments made absolutely zero sense. I even told you I wasn't the guy. I don't even use Gardz or Aura.

Not one word of this response is accurate:

"Anyway, I dont understand how you use Gardz like its going out of style, but Aura fumes bother you? Thats kinda funny. Cuz I sure as hell think Gardz is the gnarliest waterborne product you can use".
Mr. Smith, if I or any others here have offended you, could you please forgive us? I willingly accept the brunt of all negative comments about Gardz.

Perhaps it was not the Aura that got to me. Perhaps I was just run down, but i do recall reading about proper ventilation when using Aura. Also, maybe I am nore sensitive to breathing Aura fumes than I am being teased about Gardz. We have a good crowd here. Let's keep it that way if we can.

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That really is an issue with the newer zero voc paints. The manufacturer floats a layer of glycol from the factory and depending on where it's shipped then by the time it gets to the store that layer is Disturbed and a skin has formed then it gets shaken and into your paint. I usually try to remove the skin from the lid if I see one but best practice you should always strain zero voc paints. Aura and natura in 5's definitely always strain.

BTW not sure why why you would thin out 508 so much it's already pretty thin but floetrol not compatible with modern paints. Use BM, xim or M1 extender.
Thickness wasn't the issue. (But honestly I prefer using thinner paints because I'm weird...) I was subbing with another guy using it and it was just drying ridiculously fast. I'm thinking in that house it was a combination of stuff being really dry and not having any humidity whatsoever, or the drywall not being primed properly. (It wasn't new construction, but I think the previous painters didn't prime.) But it basically was just drying as soon as I put it on, really almost 30 seconds or a minute and it'd be dry on the ceiling. We ended up with a lot of weird flashing issues with it and Aura as well, I think it was a combo of conditions, drywall, and both products drying ridiculously quick. I wanted to use plain water but the paint store gods told him Floetrol, but BM Extender for Aura. It worked I guess. Ceiling paint especially was drastic in how improved it was, and the Floetrol seemed to cause no issues. Looking back I'd have probably primed the ceiling with just some normal Zinsser Bullseye or equivalent kind of thing after the ceiling flashing around lights etc on the first coat, I told him we should, but he and I ended up doing 3 coats of 508 over basically an entire first floor due to the flashing issues, money in the bank for the paint store. :/ I mean I guess I shouldn't care, I was getting paid per hour, so whatever.
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I gave you an out, and instead of apologizing, you double down.

Reading comprehension (or intellectual honesty) is clearly not your strong suit.

I'll give you a hint. It's Futtyos who is the big Gardz fan in here and you mistook him for me.He's worried about the "off gassing" of Aura and I commented that it is a ZERO VOC paint ----so nothing to worry about.

Your comments made absolutely zero sense. I even told you I wasn't the guy. I don't even use Gardz or Aura.

Not one word of this response is accurate:

"Anyway, I dont understand how you use Gardz like its going out of style, but Aura fumes bother you? Thats kinda funny. Cuz I sure as hell think Gardz is the gnarliest waterborne product you can use".


Ok. Let me explain this to you:

You wrote this: "Aura has Zero VOC's. I'm not sure what the issue is here."

I asked if you were joking, because as professional painters, we should all be aware that 0 VOC does not mean fume free or health conscious.

The other statement was to Futtyos, not you, so my apologies for not making that clearer.

I think its a little ironic that Aura fumes get to him to when Gardz doesnt, cuz Gardz (and sheilds) sure as hell gets to me.

Get it? Got it? Good.
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