Benjamin Moore advance ??? Crap or not? - Paint Talk

Holdenholden · 12-18-2018, 08:01 PM

I used this semi gloss advance today on existing baseboards. Baseboards were painted with latex previously. The advance wanted to sag. Only 2.5” base. Usually I do put a generous coat on so it smoothies out nice. But this stuff wanted to run off. Idk if it’s the product or the surface. I had to put a few thin thin coats on amd brush it out lots to solve the problem. Just seemed like twice the work if I were to use a regular latex or acrylic paint.

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cocomonkeynuts · 12-18-2018, 09:15 PM

If your putting it on thick enough that its running its not going to cure properly either. Treat it like any other oil paint. Thin coats <4mils. Get product on the surface quickly and lay it out. Advance may be a little learning curve to get the technique down but it produces a finish that most (all?) current latex paints cannot replicate.

Local paint pro · 12-18-2018, 09:19 PM

what he said!

Gymschu · 12-19-2018, 03:10 PM

I'm a recent convert from ProClassic to Advance. I love the stuff, especially the hardness of the finish. I will still use PC, but, due to all the info on here about Advance, it wouldn't take much for me to switch out completely.

Holdenholden · 12-19-2018, 06:53 PM

Ya I can see using to on a new surface or near perfect re paint surface. It this was reused baseboards. With old nails holes and caulking not scraped off of properly.

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marinerito · 12-19-2018, 10:52 PM

for advance check the room temperature and sometimes we use Japan dryer add

finishesbykevyn · 12-20-2018, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Holdenholden

I used this semi gloss advance today on existing baseboards. Baseboards were painted with latex previously. The advance wanted to sag. Only 2.5” base. Usually I do put a generous coat on so it smoothies out nice. But this stuff wanted to run off. Idk if it’s the product or the surface. I had to put a few thin thin coats on amd brush it out lots to solve the problem. Just seemed like twice the work if I were to use a regular latex or acrylic paint.

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Ive never had an issue with Advance. You can NOT put it on too thick though. Of course it will run. Its a slow drying self leveling paint. Basically an oil paint.
After that, its probably one of the toughest waterborne paints on the market, so definitely not crap.

The Montana Painter · 12-20-2018, 11:45 PM

For me advance is a finicky product. I have had some flash issues when going over previously painted surfaces. Never had that problem with pro classic semi. ( 2hr vs 18hr dry also) I use both depending on the job. Has anyone used p&l aquanamel ? Miss the old satin improve!!

cocomonkeynuts · 12-21-2018, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Montana Painter

For me advance is a finicky product. I have had some flash issues when going over previously painted surfaces. Never had that problem with pro classic semi. ( 2hr vs 18hr dry also) I use both depending on the job. Has anyone used p&l aquanamel ? Miss the old satin improve!!

Impervo rocks. The other store in bozeman stocks satin impervo. The hardware store in manhattan actually has a few of the old pre-'red' can satin impervo on their shelves haha that stuff must be ancient.

cocomonkeynuts · 12-21-2018, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Montana Painter

For me advance is a finicky product. I have had some flash issues when going over previously painted surfaces. Never had that problem with pro classic semi. ( 2hr vs 18hr dry also) I use both depending on the job. Has anyone used p&l aquanamel ? Miss the old satin improve!!

I picked up a mistinted semigloss pastel base. it was very similar to emerald urethane that I tried, its probably just a relabeled formula.

I also had a sample of C2 cabinet&trim in a deep base. I brushed out some MDF almost 2 months ago and that board still has quite an solvent-odor to it and the film is quite soft like it didn't fully cure. I do not recommend that at all.

12-18-2018, 08:01 PM	#1
Holdenholden Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 129 Rewards Points: 48 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts My Photos	Benjamin Moore advance ??? Crap or not? I used this semi gloss advance today on existing baseboards. Baseboards were painted with latex previously. The advance wanted to sag. Only 2.5” base. Usually I do put a generous coat on so it smoothies out nice. But this stuff wanted to run off. Idk if it’s the product or the surface. I had to put a few thin thin coats on amd brush it out lots to solve the problem. Just seemed like twice the work if I were to use a regular latex or acrylic paint. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-18-2018, 09:15 PM	#2
cocomonkeynuts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: usa Posts: 2,203 Rewards Points: 2,314 Thanks: 141 Thanked 417 Times in 363 Posts My Photos	If your putting it on thick enough that its running its not going to cure properly either. Treat it like any other oil paint. Thin coats <4mils. Get product on the surface quickly and lay it out. Advance may be a little learning curve to get the technique down but it produces a finish that most (all?) current latex paints cannot replicate. finishesbykevyn and Greg Mrakich like this.

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12-18-2018, 09:19 PM	#3
Local paint pro Senior Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NC Posts: 160 Rewards Points: 318 Thanks: 30 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts My Photos	what he said!

12-19-2018, 03:10 PM	#4
Gymschu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Eastern Ohio (Appalachia) Posts: 1,373 Rewards Points: 110 Thanks: 1,638 Thanked 823 Times in 452 Posts My Photos	I'm a recent convert from ProClassic to Advance. I love the stuff, especially the hardness of the finish. I will still use PC, but, due to all the info on here about Advance, it wouldn't take much for me to switch out completely.

12-19-2018, 06:53 PM	#5
Holdenholden Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 129 Rewards Points: 48 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts My Photos	Ya I can see using to on a new surface or near perfect re paint surface. It this was reused baseboards. With old nails holes and caulking not scraped off of properly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-19-2018, 10:52 PM	#6
marinerito Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Rewards Points: 22 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts My Photos	for advance check the room temperature and sometimes we use Japan dryer add

12-20-2018, 11:45 PM	#8
The Montana Painter Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Bozeman, Montana Posts: 51 Rewards Points: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts My Photos	For me advance is a finicky product. I have had some flash issues when going over previously painted surfaces. Never had that problem with pro classic semi. ( 2hr vs 18hr dry also) I use both depending on the job. Has anyone used p&l aquanamel ? Miss the old satin improve!!