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Old 09-05-2015, 05:41 PM   #1
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Hey Guys hope all is well!!

Benjamin Moore now sell in the UK , they don't seem to have loads on there site at the moment but just wanted to ask a question...

The Advance is hybrid? Now the hybrids in the UK give really good results though yellow quickly an fek ya brushes up. Does the same go for Advance?

What's a good alternative in the Benjamin Moore range?

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Hey Guys hope all is well!!

Benjamin Moore now sell in the UK , they don't seem to have loads on there site at the moment but just wanted to ask a question...

The Advance is hybrid? Now the hybrids in the UK give really good results though yellow quickly an fek ya brushes up. Does the same go for Advance?

What's a good alternative in the Benjamin Moore range?

Cheers
The Advance is a hybrid. Great product. After cleaning with water you have to clean with mineral spirits or else the brush will get stiff.
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Cheers guys.

Just think hybrids are pointless, may aswell just by oil!
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It is the only waterbourne "alkyd"

The finish is "fire"

I dont trip on brushes getting roached out. As soon as the shape is gone i toss it. Maybe after 5 to 10 gallons.

The regal semi is bomb. With the proform blaze you can lay that stuff down no extender immaculate.
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The Advance is a hybrid. Great product. After cleaning with water you have to clean with mineral spirits or else the brush will get stiff.

That's what I thought for years as well until I tried this stuff,

http://www.generalpencil.com/the-mas...preserver.html

It will clean alkyd residue from Advance and other hybrid/alkyd modified coatings out of a brush completely and conditions the bristles nicely as well. Hot water helps, but it's not absolutely necessary. Using Advance doesn't trash my brushes anymore and it's awfully nice not to have to deal with thinner when cleaning up.

A faux finish painter turned me on to it. She uses it to condition badger hair brushes and keep them soft, as well as for general brush cleaning. At first I thought it was kinda silly artsy fartsy stuff, but after trying it, it's awesome. I keep it on hand all the time now.
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Cheers guys.

Just think hybrids are pointless, may aswell just by oil!
You will change your mind after using the BM Advance. It is a great product. Plus, at least in this country, the true oils are "dumbed down" by VOC regulations.

Maybe in the UK hybrids have not been developed as well because your oils are still decent.

Plus, customers don't like getting smoked out of their homes by oil fumes for 2 weeks very much anymore. Advance pretty much smells like nothing.
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Cheers for your time guys!

Does the advance yellow? The hybrids in UK are good and you get a flawless finish but recoat times are crap and they start yellowing within a year or so!

We have something called ' Clean Spirit' that cleans the brushes up. Just a lazy bastard lol

We have Scandinavian paints at are disposal, they are 100% Water based and fantastic, I'm just curious to use the Ben Moore to see what it's like.

I may use there emulsions as emulsion in the UK have gone crap, so hard not to get a finish that doesn't look like a patchy mess!!
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I've used a lot of Advance in various "true" whites, and have not noticed yellowing. I'm not sure if this is because BM's colorants or what. Definitely not like a pure white oil going yellow in 4-6 months. I've been back to jobs 2-3 years later and have not seen yellowing.
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Cheers for your time guys!

Does the advance yellow? The hybrids in UK are good and you get a flawless finish but recoat times are crap and they start yellowing within a year or so!

We have something called ' Clean Spirit' that cleans the brushes up. Just a lazy bastard lol

We have Scandinavian paints at are disposal, they are 100% Water based and fantastic, I'm just curious to use the Ben Moore to see what it's like.

I may use there emulsions as emulsion in the UK have gone crap, so hard not to get a finish that doesn't look like a patchy mess!!
I have been told that Advance will yellow, but it takes a very long time. The recoat time is 16 hours, but have been told that some painters only wait 8 hrs. The only other hybrid paint that I have used is California's Nextech and the repaint time was the same.
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Well been using Advance products and must say they are very good! Tried the Aura and don't think that is very good tbh. The ceiling paint is very good as are the fresh start primer and Advance primer.

Here is a picture of the grand entrance Gloss

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The Aura takes a bit of getting used to. Unless you're super fast, I usually recommend cutting in, letting it dry, and then finishing the wall. It dries so fast you'll pull it up if you're not quick. The end results with Aura are pretty incredible, though. If you didn't like working with the Aura, try our Regal Select- it's got a lot of the same properties, but it's easier to work with.

I always like seeing pics of the Grand Entrance, it's pretty cool and I don't get to see a lot done with it. Cheers!
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In my experience I find Advance yellows fairly quickly. I painted a modern home that was all white (oc-65 chantilly lace) and in only 3 months noticed the trim has yellowed somewhat.

Walls were painted with regal matte and trim advance satin. It's most noticeable in rooms with very little light. Also, this home has pocket doors and when closed it's very noticeable.

Love the finish but not happy with the yellowing.
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I've painted a fair amount of Advance over the past few years. I have only used satin, but have noticed zero yellowing--not saying it won't. The alkyd is there, but not the solvents found in "old school" oil paint. It lays out NICE--just a little learning curve.

As far as the final rinse in mineral spirits--I did that early on, but haven't in over a year. Honestly have no trouble with stiff brushes. Maybe I just have higher pressure from my cleaning spigot?


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It is the only waterbourne "alkyd"

The finish is "fire"

I dont trip on brushes getting roached out. As soon as the shape is gone i toss it. Maybe after 5 to 10 gallons.

The regal semi is bomb. With the proform blaze you can lay that stuff down no extender immaculate.
Nope. There are many out there. Nextech for example. Flood CWF-UV which has been around for 25 years or so.
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Nope. There are many out there. Nextech for example. Flood CWF-UV which has been around for 25 years or so.
Those use a different method to get to the same goal. Afaik there's nothing out there made the same way as Advance. I'll have to go dig up the difference again sometime.
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Those use a different method to get to the same goal. Afaik there's nothing out there made the same way as Advance. I'll have to go dig up the difference again sometime.
Yeah but they are waterbourne alkyds, are they not? The technology has been used for exterior s/t stains for years.
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