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Old 08-11-2015, 02:08 PM   #1
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I'm going to have about 200k sf of walls on a 60k floor plan apartments and am looking for a good machine to have it done. My 450st is almost 20 years old, and even though it was well kept and still has the original setup in it, did not change a thing but screens, thinking it would not pull that much at once.

What is a good sprayer to get for such volume? People sell big Titan and Graco sometimes, don't want to get a new one just for this job, as my lowboy is more than enough for everything else, don't like to deal with heavy things much.

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Old 08-11-2015, 02:31 PM   #2
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Maybe you could just get a new piston sleeve and packings for your old pump
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Maybe you could just get a new piston sleeve and packings for your old pump
Well, it works fine, I have a new packing set laying around somewhere, but it works just fine as it is still, the motor is what I am worried about, gets a bit warm going without stopping for hours.
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Tri tech sprayers.
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If it's just for this job, I'd look for a used Speedflo. I bought my 5500! off Craigslist a few years ago for $500. Gas & electric engines. Those and Airlessco are my 2 favorite machines. Built like tanks and run forever. 1.3-2 GPM. Pay for itself in a day.
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A bigger Graco 595 and up from craigslist if you don't want to spend a lot. You could probably get a 1000+ max for $300 of you can find them.
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I'm going to have about 200k sf of walls on a 60k floor plan apartments and am looking for a good machine to have it done. My 450st is almost 20 years old, and even though it was well kept and still has the original setup in it, did not change a thing but screens, thinking it would not pull that much at once.

What is a good sprayer to get for such volume? People sell big Titan and Graco sometimes, don't want to get a new one just for this job, as my lowboy is more than enough for everything else, don't like to deal with heavy things much.

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Wall an ceiling same color?

I vote for a graco 1095 or something comparable. We have those and 1595's. Smaller and u wont be happy running a short hose. We usually run 150 feet. If 200 or more, we use 3/8 inch hose the first couple sections. 1095 is also kinda the entry threshold for block filler and other stiff paint.

Anything smaller just aint gonna cut the mustard... Unless u wanna use some wimpy tip like a 517 for priming. We use 525 a lot. Also 625.
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I vote for a graco 1095 or something comparable. We have those and 1595's. Smaller and u wont be happy running a short hose. We usually run 150 feet. If 200 or more, we use 3/8 inch hose the first couple sections. 1095 is also kinda the entry threshold for block filler and other stiff paint.

Anything smaller just aint gonna cut the mustard... Unless u wanna use some wimpy tip like a 517 for priming. We use 525 a lot. Also 625.
Yeah, I can't even social order those fancy special fangdangled tips. The biggest I can buy (for paint) is a 517. My 1000+ max machines can spray everything except tar without any issues. I've run epoxy through it, block filler, enviro-smart (incredibly heavy bodied elastomeric) all without issue, with anywhere from 150-200 feet of line. I would love a 1095 though. I'd trade all my sprayers for one.
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Old 08-12-2015, 12:43 AM   #10
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Although a it'll be a big investment, buy the biggest machine you can afford. From what I've seen Graco and Titan dominate the market around Seattle.

I'd also talk with the rep that's providing the paint for your project to see if they can get you a deal on a pump. Plus, you'll be able to write off the pump on your taxes.


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We have a Titan 700 2 hoses and guns at the same time. We wanted a 440 but as we thought about it with 4 people one machine would work. If you have any one besides yourself maybe a 2 gun set up.

Most of these you can finance (depending on credit score of course) through Titan or Graco or some paint stores.

Our 700 was a tick under 2 grand. I made 6 $250 payments then payed it off.
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You'll be able to pick up a Titan 840 for around $2100 next month at your local national paint store.
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Go big. What you can get for that job is something that can allow you to spray more faster. That is a huge project and the last thing you want is your pump slowing you down. Get some thing that can put out a good amount in a shorter time.
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See I think the opposite of most on the forum. Ur first pump? Painting houses? Get small and cheap. That 395 is plenty. Down the road u get some big work then get something to do that work then.
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Reread your OP and if you're not using it as a workhorse and already have a smaller sprayer for residential and light commercial, I would take a look at a Graco 695. It's not in the same ballpark as the 1095-1595 but those are heavy use machines IMO. The 695 can do some of the larger projects as long as you don't need to run 600' of line and 2 guns. We can run 200' (2 x 100') and 2 guns spraying latex no problem with the 695.
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Why just one machine? How about several smaller ones?

If you have more than 2 guys on this job, each 2 man team rocks a new 390 nova, which will hold value for the resale upon job completion or serve as backups throughout the year, or heck now you will have a dedicated machine for oil, latex, etc...

If this job is an anomaly, I would go multiple pumps vs overkill that's rarely used.
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Why just one machine? How about several smaller ones?

If you have more than 2 guys on this job, each 2 man team rocks a new 390 nova, which will hold value for the resale upon job completion or serve as backups throughout the year, or heck now you will have a dedicated machine for oil, latex, etc...

If this job is an anomaly, I would go multiple pumps vs overkill that's rarely used.
Thanks for the inputs everyone. This job does not pay very much for myself, let alone hire someone else, it is more for the advertisement purposes than money making. I'm working by myself on this one, cuz I'm going right behind crews that do siding, sheet-rock and mill-work yet to be, kind of following floor by floor and side by side, not a big rush for me, trim work come last, well.. it's complicated))

Builder, friend of mine, did not want to hire a company of painters, cuz he wanted to have everything to be moving alone at once, level by level and not to wait till the whole building is ready for the paint in and out and hold everything else till it's done, spendy that way. The outside is done with metal and cement board, and metal in between is not paintable, so I paint when side is done and then wait till next side is finished. Anyways.. that's why I was offered to help, to get back to painting and.. let go of trucking, which I was thinking of already.

I have come across Ultra Max 795 for just over a grand (older version, guessing about 10-15 yo) on Craig's and thinking to get it. It will need to be rebuilt on piston side, pressure gauge and some tlc, overall seams to be working, even though paint is all over in and out. So, me is thinking.. if it is worth the price of an old unit, hit or miss guess, and rebuild kits, or just get something similar new on payments and worry not about anything for the next few years. I know it is around 3-4 grand, but I can do pmts, I guess.

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Not exactly sure where you're located, but this might be a good deal.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/tls/5172412765.html


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Not exactly sure where you're located, but this might be a good deal.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/tls/5172412765.html


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About one+ hour away. Just emailed, seams like the best from what I've seeing, if I get it, pizza is on me, appreciate the help))

PS: are these comparable? http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/tls/5153333980.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/5166612621.html

Those are a lot cheaper, yet well used, but your hint is a lot more tempting.

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I hope the sprayer works out for you if you end up getting it.


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