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Old 03-01-2013, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Best WB substitute for original SW Pro-Classic Oil

Not sure if this topic has been covered recently, but am curious as to what others think is the best current WB product that is most like the original SW Pro-Classic Oil? I am thinking in terms of leveling with brush application (not spraying), and durability once fully cured. Specific brush recommendation also appreciated. Thoughts? Personal experience?
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:00 PM   #2
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SW Pro-Classic acrylic latex
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BM Advance would be my choice. It dries rock hard and has amazing leveling properties.
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California's Nextech dual dispersion is an int/ext acrylic / alkyd so cleans up as latex, dries hard as oil with nice leveling. Ultraplate, is a urethane modified acrylic, super tough finish, awesome adhesion and levels nice. I've hit this stuff with the claw end of a hammer and never chipped, some wood gouged and came off, but the paint was holding fast.
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We have been using Porter paint Gyplic, it is a Like advance.
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Not sure if this topic has been covered recently, but am curious as to what others think is the best current WB product that is most like the original SW Pro-Classic Oil? I am thinking in terms of leveling with brush application (not spraying), and durability once fully cured. Specific brush recommendation also appreciated. Thoughts? Personal experience?
For sure sw pro-classic latex.I've been using sw solo trim paint lately.It lays down pretty good.
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Again a vote for Pro Classic WB
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For sure sw pro-classic latex.I've been using sw solo trim paint lately.It lays down pretty good.
Solo semi is by far my favorite wb trim paint for brushing.
The price is also excellent.

Yay S.W.!
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Again a vote for Pro Classic WB
Not a fan at all of SW pro classic latex , the BM advance is good depending on where it's being used. Satin Impervo or P&L cell u tone were way better than Classic oil. Anyway hands down Muralo waterborne was the best we ever used but hard to get now. They all suck compared to oil but the way it is pretty much now. Allot depends on how's it being applied. We like the Satin Impervo WB brushes, rolls and sprays alright. To each his own. We tried the new C2 WB trim and cabinet paint , not bad but further use is needed for a thumbs up yet.
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Newsflash people, Pro Classic Latex is no longer waterborne. Hasn't been for over a year. Its all i ever used for trim and started to notice it didn't work and feel the same. Studied the label and saw it no longer said waterbourne. Asked my SW manager and field rep when did change from waterbourne. They said it didn't. I said it did. Show me where it says so. Neither one could not find it on the can or even it even in spec data sheets that it is waterbourne. Guess what I was right. Both scratched their heads in amazement. DUH!
Nice of SW to not inform their customers of product change.
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Anyway hands down Muralo waterborne was the best we ever used but hard to get now.

I love that paint but I'm tired of recommending it because people don't know what it is or where to get it. I use it all the time.

Muralo marketing sucks because it could be the #1 paint inn the USA if they worked harder at promoting it.
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Newsflash people, Pro Classic Latex is no longer waterborne.

I don't make the paints I just apply them. It cleans with water. It's not a true oil. Please give me the chemical breakdown again, I need to sleep on this one.
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Newsflash people, Pro Classic Latex is no longer waterborne. Hasn't been for over a year. Its all i ever used for trim and started to notice it didn't work and feel the same. Studied the label and saw it no longer said waterbourne. Asked my SW manager and field rep when did change from waterbourne. They said it didn't. I said it did. Show me where it says so. Neither one could not find it on the can or even it even in spec data sheets that it is waterbourne. Guess what I was right. Both scratched their heads in amazement. DUH!
Nice of SW to not inform their customers of product change.
How can it not be wb?It's acrylic latex?
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Really like P/C but the first couple times I hated it. After just a minute it would get hard to pull. Found out I was working it too much and don't add anything to level. It has it's own leveler in it just apply and leave it alone. Ever since I have come to really like it and seems to dry very hard. Just my humble opinion, and opinions are like rear ends every body has 1 and most of them stink.
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Waterbourne finishes have oil and water infused together. Logic tells us this is impossible but technology has proven otherwise. Waterbourne paints, with very little effort level like oil . It dries to an unbelievable hard, durable, can beat the crap outta it finish. Basically it has the durability that oil based paints use to have, which was unsurpassed, but has the ease of application and cleanup like a water based paint. Best concept to come along in years.
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(Waterbourne finishes have oil and water infused together ) not true
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(Waterbourne finishes have oil and water infused together ) not true

..except if it is a Wateborne alkyd.. like Advance, Zar Ultra Max, SW WB alkyd, etc.
I believe the "oil " is plant based ( soy ?) and not petrol.
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Waterbourne finishes have oil and water infused together. Logic tells us this is impossible but technology has proven otherwise. Waterbourne paints, with very little effort level like oil . It dries to an unbelievable hard, durable, can beat the crap outta it finish. Basically it has the durability that oil based paints use to have, which was unsurpassed, but has the ease of application and cleanup like a water based paint. Best concept to come along in years.
Only hybrids do.....not pro classic latex
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