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Old 11-15-2012, 04:55 PM   #1
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I don't know where the best place to post this is... but here goes

In December I am flying over to Australia to do one of my first painting jobs on my own since I left a company I was working for.
My fiance lives in Brisbane so I am looking to start something over there.

The job is for a non-profit Meditation Center. They have a 3,000 square foot ceiling that needs to be painted and basically I am trying to figure what I need to know to make a good bid (which I hear is an art unto itself). Kind of a new area for me since I have always been a worker bee.

There will be some handymen working on some of the ceiling, not sure how big yet. Today I emailed the client with a bunch of questions about what they are doing and what sheen she currently has, what sheen she wants, and gave her explanations of a few different options.

She will be ordering the paint from a few hundred miles away so I need to order pretty accurately. I divided 3000 sq. ft. by 350 to find out how many gallons I would need for 1 coat. That's about 9 gallons for 1 coat, and I'm not sure if It's going to need 2. Should I just "go for 2" if the client doesn't care either way? Especially since it's being shipped from a ways away.
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Color change? On drywall? Sheen change? Residential? Account for vaulted ceilings? Minus closets?
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If it's commercial, is it drywall, acoustic, exposed truss and deck? Raw sheetrock, unprimed metal, ceiling grids, skylights...

This is why help on bidding/costing/pricing /estimating on the Internet is difficult at best. Not to mention different products have different spread rates...
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Purchase it thru my account, I get the deduction and you get a great rate on paint BTW, you will have to get rid of terms like square feet. We work in meters and Litre here. And slip in the word mate a lot. You will fit right in!
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So say the room is 17x17 meters. That is close to 280 square meters of area. One 20L drum of ceiling flat should cover that once. Price here for the is about $100 for 20L. So order two and it's still only $200, or buy 3x15L drums because you will find it hard to get 20L.
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Purchase it thru my account, I get the deduction and you get a great rate on paint BTW, you will have to get rid of terms like square feet. We work in meters and Litre here. And slip in the word mate a lot. You will fit right in!
And G'day. Not sure what it means but they use it a lot.
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And G'day. Not sure what it means but they use it a lot.
To right champ! In all seriousness, Brisbane work is pretty competitive and slow at the moment. Get rid of terms like miles, gallons etc.........we moved on from the old system years ago

Also, with the ceiling the height would be a factor too..........it might be 3.2 or 3.6 meters high or even 4.2 if is a commercial style of fitout.
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And G'day. Not sure what it means but they use it a lot.
G'day RH

I can't help it I always say G'day : )

I say G'day in the morning afternoon at night it's an allrounder : )

As in Greetings only lol not when I walk away

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I don't know where the best place to post this is... but here goes

In December I am flying over to Australia to do one of my first painting jobs on my own since I left a company I was working for.
My fiance lives in Brisbane so I am looking to start something over there.

The job is for a non-profit Meditation Center. They have a 3,000 square foot ceiling that needs to be painted and basically I am trying to figure what I need to know to make a good bid (which I hear is an art unto itself). Kind of a new area for me since I have always been a worker bee.

There will be some handymen working on some of the ceiling, not sure how big yet. Today I emailed the client with a bunch of questions about what they are doing and what sheen she currently has, what sheen she wants, and gave her explanations of a few different options.

She will be ordering the paint from a few hundred miles away so I need to order pretty accurately. I divided 3000 sq. ft. by 350 to find out how many gallons I would need for 1 coat. That's about 9 gallons for 1 coat, and I'm not sure if It's going to need 2. Should I just "go for 2" if the client doesn't care either way? Especially since it's being shipped from a ways away.

G'day Christian

Maybe not the best choice doing your first job on your own over here
You have some guts I will give you that .

First of all you need to be licensed over in OZ as a painter if I think the job is over $1000
You would be best to try an line up a job and work for someone first in a new country and get a feel for the place and how we
Work . Shame you are not in Sydney as heaps of work

Good Luck in Australia is your Fiance an Aussie Girl ?

Hope you like the Heat gets hot in Brisbane
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Hope you like the Heat gets hot in Brisbane
It is about 33 outside today. Damn it's hot!
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G'day RH

I can't help it I always say G'day : )

I say G'day in the morning afternoon at night it's an allrounder : )

As in Greetings only lol not when I walk away
G'day BTP!
Just giving it to ya. I like the sound of G'day.
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G'day BTP!
Just giving it to ya. I like the sound of G'day.
Better than G'dog?
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It is about 33 outside today. Damn it's hot!
G'day Steve

Yeah 29 deg in Sydney yesterday today 17 deg but as you know with the heat in NSW it's not as bad as up in QLD
We don't tend to get that dry heat that is a killer
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Thank you, everybody, for the replies.

Paradigmzz- Not sure about all of those things yet; I emailed the client and she hasn't responded yet.

It's in a commercial space but I'm dealing with the person that is renting it because the landlord told her she can do what ever she wants. So it won't be a blow and go kind of thing.

No vaulted ceiling, no closets, no grids, no skylights. 1 little bathroom. Drywall with that is already painted but is having work done on it..she hasn't given me the. details.

"Purchase it thru my account, I get the deduction and you get a great rate on paint BTW, you will have to get rid of terms like square feet. We work in meters and Litre here. And slip in the word mate a lot. You will fit right in!"

Thanks RepaintPro. Let me see what rate the client is getting with whoever she is dealing with. What rate do you get? If it's cheaper I will totally take you up on that!

I'll get a conversion calculator for my units of measurement!

Is "Crikey" ok to say? The Croc Hunter used to say it. RIP

Regarding the ceiling height- do you mean it would be a factor because of the difficulty in reaching it? From what I have heard it is a low ceiling for a commercial space.

Yeah my fiance is an Aussie girl. We are looking Visa options right now which is a goat rodeo.

Soooo.... 280 square meters is a big f'in ceiling. I'm having a tough time estimating though, without any repair or other nonsense, just cutting in and rolling (hopefully I can find a spray rig), how much time do you guys think that would take?

Spraying would be all in the prep time and then just knocking it out.

Do you think a few days in both cases?

It's going to be weird spending Christmas in Summer. No "white Christmas" this year.
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If my conversions from sq feet to meters are right then 280sm is not that big. It's only three drums of ceiling flat to roll on. How long could that take?

Btw drywall does not exist here either

Also if your coming on a 457 visa it will be a pain to get work, as I understand you have to do your first couple of months fruit picking etc before coming into your trade work. Good luck.
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No Dry wall? That's good to know. What do you guys do down there? Plaster?

Thanks for the heads up on the 457
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Crikey! 33 is a warm day here in Minnesnoda too! But it can still snow at 33, just usually doesn't stick!
But we prefer "33..! dang das not bad, dontchaknow"...
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No Dry wall? That's good to know. What do you guys do down there? Plaster?

Thanks for the heads up on the 457
Drywall is gyprock. Lots of terms are different, on this forum some of the terms are like trying to decipher a different language.
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Ha ha. For sure. My fiance and I get endless entertainment out of it too
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