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Old 02-16-2012, 09:18 PM   #21
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I bid to make the profits I want to make. The scope of the quality in my paint bid will be what they are willing to pay for.
hey i bid it to make a good profit also but on some jobs but when the ho or the gc has a "little" punch list and they also have your final payment (which is usually the profit) you gotta do what you gotta do to get it........some are an hr and some are more,but the bottom line is, you gotta get it done to get that check
if you say you make the exact profit that you intended to make on every job, i call bs, i either make more or i make less

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Old 02-16-2012, 09:44 PM   #22
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hey i bid it to make a good profit also but on some jobs when the ho or the gc has a "little" punch list and they also have your final payment (which is usually the profit) you gotta do what you gotta do to get it........some are an hr and some are more,but the bottom line is, you gotta get it done to get that check
if you say you make the exact profit that you intended to make on every job, i call bs, i either make more or i make less

And when you bid for what the specs say, and it looks great with less than what the specs say and you bid, it leaves more wiggle room for that extra punch list time. It all goes around and comes around. The key is to make sure every job gets you the next job, or at least the next opportunity to bid.
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They're usually going to want the highest quality finish, at the lowest price. From those I have worked with they just don't understand the different levels of quality and think painting is painting. So with that I usually feel out what it is they want to pay & adjust my job to reflect that number. If it works out, sweet. If not, lesson learned and raise my price on the next one or don't work for them anymore.

It's really a learning experience though working for different people. Just have to toss yourself in on one possibly risking a loss, and adjust as you go. 2-3 jobs for that person and the next 30 go pretty smooth. Can even slowly work those past losses back in here & there.

As for scope of work, I won't touch a house without a copy of their floor plan and a copy of their selection sheet (what colors where, what trim where, etc). Every time I have I got burned so it's a big no no for me I don't care who's giving me their word that they didn't forget any details. They always do some how???
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They're usually going to want the highest quality finish, at the lowest price. From those I have worked with they just don't understand the different levels of quality and think painting is painting. So with that I usually feel out what it is they want to pay & adjust my job to reflect that number. If it works out, sweet. If not, lesson learned and raise my price on the next one or don't work for them anymore.

It's really a learning experience though working for different people. Just have to toss yourself in on one possibly risking a loss, and adjust as you go. 2-3 jobs for that person and the next 30 go pretty smooth. Can even slowly work those past losses back in here & there.

As for scope of work, I won't touch a house without a copy of their floor plan and a copy of their selection sheet (what colors where, what trim where, etc). Every time I have I got burned so it's a big no no for me I don't care who's giving me their word that they didn't forget any details. They always do some how???
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Is'nt this where a Change Order comes in handy?
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